Oh, I have made my calls, and have talked to the companies. I was trying to sit down and compair apples to apples, and there really isn't a way to do that with the pay this for loaded, and this for empty. With the way that I am looking at it, if I am making 1.53 a loaded mile, with the unpaid deadhead, I am really not making that at all. I am eating part of the deadhead. So far I have found three companies that pay the same for loaded and empty. I am starting to talk to the drivers, but even that can be confusing. Some of the drivers just aren't happy unless they are complaining, and will talk negitive about the companies. That or you will hear second hand information. Guess the old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" doesn't apply.