David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

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"I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl," he said, dropping his signature sarcasm. "I don't think it's funny. I would never think it was funny."


"I'm not necessarily proud of these jokes," he said in a more ironically self-deprecating moment. "We do stuff all the time and our objective here is to get a laugh, and thank God we don't have to go to the Hague and the World Court to defend them. It's a joke and that's all it's supposed to be."


Yeah, what an unrepentent, unapologetic aѕѕ he is. <snort>


Read the story, watch this videos, and see if y'all can get past the Drama Queen crap. It would be different if Letterman was an elected official, or merely anyone that mattered, but he's not, he's a comedian.

Now all of a sudden we have a snotload of people with extremely thin skin, trying oh, so hard to be offended, exhibiting clinical symptoms of severe fakeius outrageousius, wanting to take a friggin' comedian with bad ratings seriously.

Good Lord
 
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the constitutionalists among you should re-read the first amendment.
 

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the constitutionalists among you should re-read the first amendment.
You mean the one that says,

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

That First Amendment?

Maybe you can explain, in detail, how it applies here, because I don't see anything in this thread that conflicts in any way with the First Amendment.

OK, now you can go back to your batcave knowing that you've got one more tick on the post counter towards pseudo-legitimacy of another screen name. That's it, bide your time, slow and steady wins the race.
 

arkjarhead

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IMO, it doesn't matter if he was talking about a a female that was 14, 18, 48, or 84 in a sexual way pubicly like that it's garbage. It doesn't matter how old the kids are, or who's kids they are they should be off limits.
 

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Where's the outrage over A Rod knocking someone up? He's someone's kid, too.
 

tallcal101

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The real problem here is the sorry face of the Republican party at this juncture. Palin was first invited to NY to speak at the GOP pow wow.Then she was uninvited to speak,then kind of reinvited then dropped from speaking.Newt did the speaking as he is now seen as the strongest of a weak short list of canidates for 2012.
You guys are masking the weakness of the party and it's foolish line up of losers by bringing up Letterman !! Hell,he's no better or worse then Rush,the king of bad taste.

Focus on why Palin came to NY in the first place and the fodder she has created in the media since day 1.All Letterman did was his job for Christs sake. He's a comedian,and Palin has been an easy target since she hit the national spotlight.Not only did her older girl get knocked up ,he boy freinds Mother turned out to be a dope dealer.Seems Ms. Palin had a busy agenda trying to become a relevant politician and lost sight of being a Mom on a very basic level.She had access to law enforcment to slander a family member,why not check up on what was going on with daughters boy friend s family?

The whole deal is typical of the "conservatives",Do as I say and not as I do.Leo,you are so full of it ,I also suggest you need to get over yourself.You sound down right foolish at times,no offense intended,just sound advise.
 

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and the Dems put Ted Kennedy up as a fine politician as well....and look at his family creditials.....drunks, drug addicts rapists, and the family money born from illegal booze running from the dad.
 

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No one in here seems to get it, surprise not even TalCal!! It is NOT about this candidate in particular or even candidates in general, stay away from kids!!! It is the job of the adults to protect them!!! Kids screw up every where. Some are from famous families others from more "normal" ones. Thier youthful stupidity is NOT fodder for jokes!! Leave them alone. Period. As to the parents, YOU stick around and RAISE your kids, it is NOT someone elses job. If YOU have kids, YOU raise them. It is 100% YOUR responsibility. Period.

Now, political jokes, can't we stick to poking fun a policy? The crass remarks about slutty clothes are not needed. That just shows a total lack of intelligence. Our polititions are sooo far down the road there is MORE than ample material without the low life personal humor.

Ya know, we, as a sociaty, are just getting more and more disgusting everyday. It is time to stop. Just a little common courtisy could go a long way.
 

greg334

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The real problem here is the sorry face of the Republican party at this juncture. Palin was first invited to NY to speak at the GOP pow wow.Then she was uninvited to speak,then kind of reinvited then dropped from speaking.Newt did the speaking as he is now seen as the strongest of a weak short list of canidates for 2012.
You guys are masking the weakness of the party and it's foolish line up of losers by bringing up Letterman !! Hell,he's no better or worse then Rush,the king of bad taste.

No the real story here is the double standard of the media and the stupidity of the people at large not to understand letterman, like others, are just entertainers. They should be held at least to the same standard as any of us when making public statements about any kids. His staff failed him, he needs to take responsiblity and if he can't, then he is worthless as an entertainer. If others don't see the problem and still watch him, then they are as smart as a slug.

As for the GOP, it is lost and Newt needs to fade away because if this is all they are willing to put up there, it is a lost party. The funny thing is Andy, they are acting like the democratic party back in '96 with the internal confusion and stupidity. The dems finally got it together when the far left took over the party.

Focus on why Palin came to NY in the first place and the fodder she has created in the media since day 1.All Letterman did was his job for Christs sake. He's a comedian,and Palin has been an easy target since she hit the national spotlight.

I thought the visit was a two fold event, one was to speak at the GOP thing and the other was to be awarded something for her work with disabled kids - or did AP get that wrong?

Yes she is a target, but so are others. The nominee for the supreme court is another but we can't talk about her like we can Palin? There is a difference to me, Palin seems to at least have some integrity dealing with her disabled kid and I have even heard some hateful things from the left about her and her kid, you support those hateful things said about a disabled kid?

Not only did her older girl get knocked up ,he boy freinds Mother turned out to be a dope dealer.Seems Ms. Palin had a busy agenda trying to become a relevant politician and lost sight of being a Mom on a very basic level.She had access to law enforcment to slander a family member,why not check up on what was going on with daughters boy friend s family?

Hey Andy, it's funny you brought this up because many in your circle make allowances for the same exact thing. I mean look at Hollywood as a whole, don't they seem force us to accept this as normalize type of behavior through their work? You can't make claims that this is a bad situation when you have people in your state that seems to promote these behaviors and vilify anyone suggesting it is wrong. It is a right to have a kid and to do what they want regardless what morals are cast aside.

How about the Democratic point of view of working mothers? what happened to that in your judgement of a working mother. Now because she is a republican, she doesn't count as a working mother? What happened to the excuses made by the liberals on why Johnny can't read or why Jane got knocked up at 15 by Jack? Blaming Palin for her failure is her fault while other mothers who "failed" to do their job sits with the system really proves a point of a double standard.

As for her and the tropper thing, that is alaska's problem, just like Clinton using the arkansaw state troopers to get laid - right?

The whole deal is typical of the "conservatives",Do as I say and not as I do.Leo,you are so full of it ,I also suggest you need to get over yourself.You sound down right foolish at times,no offense intended,just sound advise.

No you got it wrong. When people trash Obama for example, the same reaction happens but it is alright because he is your messiah. I am not a conservitive but I do think letterman is wrong in his approach and delivery of his joke. He knows better to do the research, he knows better than to appoligize as he did but because he, like many other entertainers, has a clear agenda of hate, he doesn't care.
 
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witness23

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Some of you have lost your minds....I swear. First of all it was a joke by a late night comedian, second and everyone knows this, it wasn't about Palin's 14 year old daughter it was about her 18 year-old mom Bristol(who did get knocked-up), and third he never used the word "raped" like it was suggested in the opening of this thread, by Todd Palin and on radio show's such as Rush, Beck and a local guy I listen to.

How many of you on here that posted your objections actually watched the clips from the Letterman show before you made your comments? I saw this thread yesterday but didn't post anything until I saw and heard what was said by Letterman.

I wonder if the ones in here that are so adamant about this subject would have the same fervor if Letterman had made a similar joke about Obama's 18 year old daughter that happened to get knocked up while she was under age? Seriously, be honest with yourselves. Truly, unreal.

To bad Palin turned down Letterman's request to come on the show, I would not miss that one for the world.
 

witness23

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Yes she is a target, but so are others. The nominee for the supreme court is another but we can't talk about her like we can Palin?


Are you serious Greg??????? She has been targeted by your leader of the Republican party Rush Limbaugh also by Glenn Beck, Hannity, etc, etc, the day she was announced for the Supreme Court. Being called a racist and talking about a girl getting "knocked-up" (which she did) by a comedian is being targeted so don't say it isn't happening. Unbelievable.
 

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Yes she is a target, but so are others. The nominee for the supreme court is another but we can't talk about her like we can Palin?


Are you serious Greg??????? She has been targeted by your leader of the Republican party Rush Limbaugh also by Glenn Beck, Hannity, etc, etc, the day she was announced for the Supreme Court. Being called a racist and talking about a girl getting "knocked-up" (which she did) by a comedian is being targeted so don't say it isn't happening. Unbelievable.


Since when are ANY of the talk show people you mentioned, Rush in particular, the "Leader" of the Re-Bum-Li-Can party? Who even cares who is the leader of that sleezy bunch? Who even cares who is the leader of that other sleezy bunch, the Dumb-O-Crats? They all suck!!!

As to jokes about individual children, NO WAY!! Be they the sons or daughters of polititions or real people. IT IS WRONG!!! Poking fun at kids in general is good stuff. It is funny because most of us WERE kids at one time. Poking fun of a "REAL" individual kid is just plain wrong. It should NOT happen. Adults have a responsibility to protect kids. What is wrong with people in here? Is this that hard to see? LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!!! The parents have to deal with the stupidty that their kids get into. A teen getting pregnate is a real tragity, NOT fodder for scum bag comedians.

AS to poking fun of the polititons, have at it, BUT, on policy. Poking fun of looks is silly. They are all stupid enough that you can have endless material on what they do and say.
 

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I have seen letterman before I formed my opinion, it was clear that there was one sided reporting going on with all the complaining going on.

But with that said, Palin has been targeted by far more than sodamayor has been. She got hit by the entire mainstream press during the election with some vile stuff. And the difference is clear that Rush and others like him are limited in number and scope of their effectiveness in the general public.

I can't stress this enough to the anyone, I don't have a party. I believe in the individual, not the collective and always have. I lean towards a classic liberal position on most issues which between the two major parties, which meant I related to some of the was the republicans. However, the problem now is they are rudderless and reflect a lost party. They forget who they are, just as much as the entertainers forget who they are.
 

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Some of you are apparently far less sharp than I had previously given you credit for. The "joke" was about what happened at the ballgame attended by Palin and her daughter. The daughter attending the ballgame is 14. Letterman and his minions had surely seen the photos and news coverage and could see this wasn't an 18 year old young woman but a 14 year old girl. It has nothing to do with the party or Newt or his using the phrase getting knocked up or her older sister's fairly common mid-teenage girl poor judgment with a teenage boy who will say and do most anything to get what he wants or anything else. It has to do with adult poor judgment, bad taste and crossing the line regarding minors all exhibited by Letterman. There definitely are some who need to get over themselves, open their eyes and mind and wake up but I'm not in that group.
 

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Witness,
I have seen letterman before I formed my opinion, it was clear that there was one sided reporting going on with all the complaining going on.

But with that said, Palin has been targeted by far more than sodamayor has been. She got hit by the entire mainstream press during the election with some vile stuff. And the difference is clear that Rush and others like him are limited in number and scope of their effectivness in the general public.

I can't stress this enough to the anyone, I don't have a party. I beleive in the individual, not the collective and always have. I lean towards a classic liberal position on most issues which between the two major parties, was the republicans. However, the problem now is they are rudderless and reflect a lost party. They forget who they are, just as much as the entertainers forget who they are.

Greg, you just don't get it!! If you do not agree with Obama you are a racist, stupid AND you HAVE to be a
Re-Bum-Li-Can. Don't you know that? That is just how it is. If you have REAL standards you are a racist, stupid and in-flexable. If you hold others to their responsibilities you are racist, stupid and a Re-Bum-Li-Can. If you approve of Obama, you are NOT a racist, not stupid. You enlightend if you excuse sleezy living, not raising your own kids and enjoy dodging your responsibilites.

I am glad I am a dinosaur as OVM says I am. I take that as a badge of honor. I am PROUD NOT to fall into the MODERN sleeze morality way of life. I am NOT an Obama type.
 

witness23

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Greg, you just don't get it!! If you do not agree with Obama you are a racist, stupid AND you HAVE to be a
Re-Bum-Li-Can. Don't you know that? That is just how it is. If you have REAL standards you are a racist, stupid and in-flexable. If you hold others to their responsibilities you are racist, stupid and a Re-Bum-Li-Can. If you approve of Obama, you are NOT a racist, not stupid. You enlightend if you excuse sleezy living, not raising your own kids and enjoy dodging your responsibilites.

I am glad I am a dinosaur as OVM says I am. I take that as a badge of honor. I am PROUD NOT to fall into the MODERN sleeze morality way of life. I am NOT an Obama type.

This has nothing to do with Obama, I merely used the situation at hand to see if anyone would have the same opinion and fervor as they do because it was Palin. If the shoe was on the other foot if you may. Greg can see what's going with the, "one sided reporting going on" as he said in his post why can't other's? It's pathetic, quit making this into something it is not. Now Palin thinks Letterman needs to apologize to all young women????? Way to deflect Sarah, hang it up.

Layout.....why must you take things to places that have no relivance in the discussion? If you do not agree with Obama, I personally do not think of you as a racist, stupid or republican. You said in your post, "You enlightend if you excuse sleezy living, not raising your own kids and enjoy dodging your responsibilites". To whom are you speaking of? I hope you are not referring to me. I would like to think I have real standards being a born again Christian and doing the best that I can everyday to live up to those standards. I'm not a racist, stupid(atleast I don't consider myself stupid) or inflexible(inflexible is one word, no hyphen required by the way). Anyway, for a former Presidential candidate to keep this going is unfortunate and does not do anything for her.
 

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This has nothing to do with Obama, I merely used the situation at hand to see if anyone would have the same opinion and fervor as they do because it was Palin. If the shoe was on the other foot if you may. Greg can see what's going with the, "one sided reporting going on" as he said in his post why can't other's? It's pathetic, quit making this into something it is not. Now Palin thinks Letterman needs to apologize to all young women????? Way to deflect Sarah, hang it up.

Layout.....why must you take things to places that have no relivance in the discussion? If you do not agree with Obama, I personally do not think of you as a racist, stupid or republican. You said in your post, "You enlightend if you excuse sleezy living, not raising your own kids and enjoy dodging your responsibilites". To whom are you speaking of? I hope you are not referring to me. I would like to think I have real standards being a born again Christian and doing the best that I can everyday to live up to those standards. I'm not a racist, stupid(atleast I don't consider myself stupid) or inflexible(inflexible is one word, no hyphen required by the way). Anyway, for a former Presidential candidate to keep this going is unfortunate and does not do anything for her.


No, I was NOT referring to you. I WAS however refering to things that HAVE been said about my beliefs. Modern sociaty admires people that DON"T raise there own kids, rich women who have kids out of wedlock, no need for a dad, what good are dads? Then those same women farm those kids out to day care or nannies, can't interfere with their careers.Dad's who run out on their kids, not even contributing to the support. Kids NEED intact families. People marry, divorce, re-marry, make more kids, then divorce again with no reguard to what damage they do to the kids. Kids today are treated worse than pets.

It IS ok to poke fun at my spelling and grammer. I have to have a purpose in life!!! Making others use of English look good is one of them!!!

AS to the Obama kids, I would be just as mad if his kids had this done to them. I have said that many times in this thread. STAY AWAY FROM THE KIDS. I think that is clear.
 

witness23

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No, I was NOT referring to you. I WAS however refering to things that HAVE been said about my beliefs. Modern sociaty admires people that DON"T raise there own kids, rich women who have kids out of wedlock, no need for a dad, what good are dads? Then those same women farm those kids out to day care or nannies, can't interfere with their careers.Dad's who run out on their kids, not even contributing to the support. Kids NEED intact families. People marry, divorce, re-marry, make more kids, then divorce again with no reguard to what damage they do to the kids. Kids today are treated worse than pets.

It IS ok to poke fun at my spelling and grammer. I have to have a purpose in life!!! Making others use of English look good is one of them!!!

AS to the Obama kids, I would be just as mad if his kids had this done to them. I have said that many times in this thread. STAY AWAY FROM THE KIDS. I think that is clear.

Soooo, what you are saying, since I do not see the harm in Letterman's joke I am a part of the masses that you described above?

What you said above is a totally different discussion in of itself. If I were a betting man I wouldn't for a second think anyone on this forum would disagree with what you are talking about. Stay on point Layout.
 

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Layout,I agree with you 100% on the issue of taking responsibility for parenting correctly and with understanding and structure. I was (still am) a single parent of my two kids from age's 4 and 2. Although I had some help from Grandparents on both sides so I could travel for work,I was the responsible party.

The one thing I knew,and paid close attention to,was who their friends were,and most importantly what was going on at their homes.Although I could probably be categorized as a counter culture father,it did not involve drugs of any kind,particularly cigarettes and alcohol.So many parents think these two vice's have no influence's on kids. That's just so wrong.Kids follow the lead of Mommy and Daddy first and foremost.If you smoked in front of your kids,or got drunk in front of them you were irresponsible parents. If your kids are drunks that can't stay out of trouble, look in the mirror for a clue as to why.

With my daughter,if I had gut feelings about her male friends in high school ,I made my feeling known. In a few case's, they were simply not allowed to be part of her life. When she broke the rule (snuck around behind my back)I came down hard.I insisted on meeting the parents. I can pretty well spot a crank head or potential drug infested situation. It's not difficult. Palin obviously was too busy to follow up on her daughters boy friends home life . She is now paying a very heavy price for it. Forget the Kennedy's.I mean you guys seem to have to dredge up the past in nearly every post.IT'S NOT RELIVANT TO TODAY and has no bearing on the situation at hand.
I happen to like Letterman,and if he screwed up once,big deal.Out of the thousands of times he's done monologues he screwed this one up. Your treating him like a child molester.Moral high horse's to the rescue. Tar and feather him!! It's a sign of how far your desperate need to attack has come.

By the way,David always has Willie Nelson on his show when Willies in town. A left wing,pot smoking entertainer who has single handily,at great personnel expense,led the cause for the family farm and raised tens of millions of dollars to keep the issue in front of the American people. He's helped countless farmers ,of very political persuasion,keep their family farms.Left wing entertainer who speaks directly to truck drivers every week on his Sirius radio show.Quit the sweeping generalities about groups of people.You score a lot more brownie points for your side if you do.Restraint is a good thing at times.
 
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Soooo, what you are saying, since I do not see the harm in Letterman's joke I am a part of the masses that you described above?

What you said above is a totally different discussion in of itself. If I were a betting man I wouldn't for a second think anyone on this forum would disagree with what you are talking about. Stay on point Layout.

Explain, how poking fun of a real tragedy, kids lifes messed up, maybe more than one, and enjoying that is what the Lord would do? Just asking. That is NOT how I was raised. I was rasied to extend help, understanding and guidence, NOT blast it over the TV for mainly political reasons. Nothing like rubbing it in to those kids.

I am on point, I have been lambasted in here and many other places face to face because of my moral beliefs. Those beliefs are lambasted every day on TV and the papers. My beliefs are out of touch in todays world. Been told that. Funny, I had no idea that right and wrong went of of style.
 
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