Darn gas prices

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
You can thank barry, ben and turbo timmy for printing all of that toilet paper, i mean money and driving the dollar down....by the way, how is that "hope and change" workin for you all!?!?...:rolleyes:
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
It's interesting while Obama wants to set the CAFE at over 45 m.p.g. manufacturers seem to be doing little to work in that direction . Although Ford has totally remodeled the Ranger pickup and GM is coming out with a new small pickup those vehicles will not be sold in the U.S. . Only full sized pickups will be offered . Chrysler invested $685 million preparing to produce an all new Jeep Grand Cherokee for 2011 and added a second shift of workers .
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
lets see,,,if gas is 4 bucks a gallon it cost me 120 bucks a fill up


3 tanks at 120, is 360 dollars for 15O0 miles. Income might be 1200 less 360 is 840 dollars,, less one third for the truck, and one third for me , hmmm, taint much left over for milk and cookies now is there.:)
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You can thank barry, ben and turbo timmy for printing all of that toilet paper, i mean money and driving the dollar down....by the way, how is that "hope and change" workin for you all!?!?...:rolleyes:

Just fine I got a lot of change in my pocket.....no cash just change.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Gas prices? What about the price of turkeys? My local grocery chain was selling Butterball turkeys for $1.59/pound. Outrageous! I live in the number 1 turkey producing state in the country. I have never paid over a $1.00/pound for a turkey unless if was stuffed, cooked and served to me by a waitress type person.

The reason for the increase in turkey prices is the rising cost to feed turkeys. Turkeys eat a lot of corn and in this country we grow a lot of corn. Ever driven through Iowa, Illinois or Nebraska? Corn everywhere. Corn as far as the eye can see. We're up to our ears in ears. So how can there be a shortage of corn to feed the turkeys? Ethanol!

Yes folks, ethanol (ethyl alcohol). Instead of drinking alcohol like God intended, we are running our internal combustion engines on the stuff. Corn is being distilled and added to gasoline creating a shortage of corn and increasing the price of turkey feed. But that's a good thing because ethanol reduces our reliance on expensive foreign oil. We may spend a few more dollars at the grocery store this Thanksgiving for our turkeys and canned Nibblets but we can give thanks that corn is being used to power our cars and to keep the price of gasoline low. Yeah, good ol' corn. Um, uh what was the topic of this post?
Alternative Fuels. Bad Corn/Good Corn

 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
I guess everything bad that happens til the end of time will be Bush's fault!

No not what I am saying. What I am saying is we are revisiting it as we did before Obama took office. Gas prices have a lot to do with the dollar, thats a given but they also have to do with refinery capacity, reformulation and so on - all issues on Bush's watch.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Gas prices? What about the price of turkeys? My local grocery chain was selling Butterball turkeys for $1.59/pound. Outrageous! I live in the number 1 turkey producing state in the country. I have never paid over a $1.00/pound for a turkey unless if was stuffed, cooked and served to me by a waitress type person.

The reason for the increase in turkey prices is the rising cost to feed turkeys. Turkeys eat a lot of corn and in this country we grow a lot of corn. Ever driven through Iowa, Illinois or Nebraska? Corn everywhere. Corn as far as the eye can see. We're up to our ears in ears. So how can there be a shortage of corn to feed the turkeys? Ethanol!

Yes folks, ethanol (ethyl alcohol). Instead of drinking alcohol like God intended, we are running our internal combustion engines on the stuff. Corn is being distilled and added to gasoline creating a shortage of corn and increasing the price of turkey feed. But that's a good thing because ethanol reduces our reliance on expensive foreign oil. We may spend a few more dollars at the grocery store this Thanksgiving for our turkeys and canned Nibblets but we can give thanks that corn is being used to power our cars and to keep the price of gasoline low. Yeah, good ol' corn. Um, uh what was the topic of this post?
Alternative Fuels. Bad Corn/Good Corn


This was projected to happen...any corn based products and feed corn...would increase the cost of food.....
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Yeap that poultry is up in price, and ALL food is going up, and will continue as the dollar goes in the bucket.....

And Ahhh.... the is no lack of gas or oil right now.....thid increasing that we are seeing right now is not on the oil companies or bush...its on barry, ben, and timmy, but thats ok, they are "hopin to change" our economy into somethiing equal to that of a 3rd world country anyhow....:rolleyes:
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
This was projected to happen...any corn based products and feed corn...would increase the cost of food.....

So we pay a little more for food but more than make up for it with huge savings at the gas pumps. OPEC can stuff it! We got corn! Lots of corn! By January gas will be under a buck a gallon.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
A few ethanol producers have contracted and or bought 1,000's of acres for corn production....and they hire the farmer to take care of the crop and they continue to live on the land...it is a good deal for the farmer that is tired of taking all the risk...

The local bushel price has doubled in the last few years...supply and demand...

wholesale beef at auction has gone from about .85 a lb to now around $1.25....steak anyone?
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Ethanol is a complete waste of our tax dollars. If the fed did not subsidize it they would not be producing it because there is no profit in doing so.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
oh,,,great,,,that tiger in our tank is dead,,,now we got the Jolly Green Giant, doesnt exactly have the same tone as the Tiger though. In 1966 the tiger gas was 28cents a gallon, mercy Im old............................lol:eek:ps My old Beetle was 1600 bucks new,,so why is a new 4 banger car today getting the same mileage and cost me 20,000 bucks, I know, Im ranting again.:eek:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Moot wrote:

Can one purchase Green Giant Nibblets in a third world country?

Well no they can't "purchase" them, but they get them free from the charity programs....much like alot of the newly unemployed are getting with the record amount of "foodstamps" that are now the "norm" here....another affect of "hope and change"....but hey, those foodstamps are one of the best things for sure "stimulate the economy...just ask nancy.... I am sure that is a positive "change" and just what those people were "hoping" for....:D
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
And Ahhh.... the is no lack of gas or oil right now.....thid increasing that we are seeing right now is not on the oil companies or bush...its on barry, ben, and timmy, but thats ok, they are "hopin to change" our economy into somethiing equal to that of a 3rd world country anyhow....:rolleyes:

Well if there is no lack of oil, everything would be going on that is oil based. Gas prices are artificial in relation to the oil prices right now and it seems like many of the price hikes are anticipated moves which should be construed as a form of fraud.

The dollar is not the issue when domestic prices of other oil products are not increasing, plastics being one of them. We have yet to see the skyrocketing prices in plastics but a gradual increase.

BUT if you examine the real issues behind the volatility of fuel prices, it comes down to Bush refusing to stop the reformulation of area gas, he didn't push hard for new refinery capacity and he didn't see the need to replace the fed chairmen who is really to blame for the dollar's demise.

Lowing interest rates was a bush thing, not a Obama thing, it is that alone that has done more damage to the dollar than anything else. Many people are just too stupid to get the fact that just because their interest rate on their mortgage could be refinanced lower, the value of their home and property is tied to the value of the dollar. A lot of people think more is more when more is less. The idea that we need to lower the rates - hence the dollar - in order to spur growth and increase exports is based on bad thoeries that never worked in the first place.
 
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