CSA 2010 Question

[Turtle]

I made a personal commitment to myself to change burned out light bulbs immediately upon their discovery, or as soon as safety and practicality permits. Thus, I have never had a personal crisis over a burned out light bulb. Nor am I likely to.

 

[moose]

Carriers don't randomly cancel the contracts of drivers that bring value to the company. .

NightCreacher might disagree with that statement ,(but will lough it off all the way to the bank...)

 

[moose]

. It is already helping to get the truly bad drivers off the road which makes it safer for all of us...

Th'a ,they be gone soon ,making room for the inexperience ones to hold the wheel .
IF ,i understand it correct ,carriers will not be penalized for the revolving doors ,just drivers .

just look at OVM catch from yesterday . ConWay is buying 1,300 new trucks ,with one safety goal in mind : make everything they can to have the most irresponsible drivers onbord .
it's like they admit ,the # one problem they goonna have is drivers that *can't keep it between the line *following to close *speeding on the exit ramps .
sad ,very sad .

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Th'a ,they be gone soon ,making room for the inexperience ones to hold the wheel .
IF ,i understand it correct ,carriers will not be penalized for the revolving doors ,just drivers .

just look at OVM catch from yesterday . ConWay is buying 1,300 new trucks ,with one safety goal in mind : make everything they can to have the most irresponsible drivers onbord .
it's like they admit ,the # one problem they goonna have is drivers that *can't keep it between the line *following to close *speeding on the exit ramps .
sad ,very sad .

When you say it that way Moose...your way of thinking makes sense...safer trucks, NOT safer drivers....hmmmmm

 

[ATeam]

Th'a ,they be gone soon ,making room for the inexperience ones to hold the wheel .
IF ,i understand it correct ,carriers will not be penalized for the revolving doors ,just drivers .

As I understand it, if a driver of any experience level gets tagged with a violation, CSA points for that violation count against both the carrier and the driver. Brand new drivers fresh out of school with no experience will have clean records as they have not driven before. If not for the fact that CSA points count against both the driver and the carrier, carriers would have a CSA incentive to churn newbie drivers through. But that incentive does not exist because the points get charged to the carrier too.

The driver who will be the big winners under CSA, I believe, will be those who have the proven ability to run violation free for an extended period of time.

Carriers have always had a financial incentive to keep driver pay low and that is easy to do under the old churn and burn system. Churn and burn will not be as much in a carrier's interests as it used to be. Whether a driver is new or seasoned, carriers will be looking for those who are conscientious enough to do an actual pre-trip inspection every day to keep the violations down.

By the way, about experience vs. inexperienced drivers and pre-trip inspections; I have not seen a noticeable difference between rookies and seasoned drivers in the morning at truck stops when drivers are beginning their day. How many drivers of any experience level do you see doing real pre-trip inspections before they drive away?

How many drivers with several years of experience have you heard say, "I don't get paid to maintain the truck, I just drive."

Ten years in the industry means nothing if the driver is the same lazy, stupid loser he is today that he was when he first began. There are people in trucks today who have learned nothing in a decade except the latest lingo to use on the CB trash talk.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

If a driver does their part CSA should not be a problem...

If a driver finds faults in their equipment and it is noted...the drivers is going to have to change trailers and really pizz a dispatcher off by doing so, especially if the trailer is preloaded, like a drop and hook....

 

[greg334]

... carriers would have a CSA incentive to churn newbie drivers through. But that incentive does not exist because the points get charged to the carrier too.

As I'm understanding this, the incentive to keep fresh bodies in the seat better than trying to mitigate problems with older troublesome drivers.

This entire CSA 2010 thing is about identifying and CORRECTING problems within carriers and then drivers. Even though the problem is caused by the driver, the carrier can mitigate the problems by simply getting rid of the driver.