Conservatives will have a candidate in 2016.
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Ted Cruz has about as much chance of being POTUS as the Easter Bunny.
Liberals laughed off a B-grade movie actor, named Reagan, in 1980. He won 2 major landslide elections to the Presidency. The right conservative can win since our nation has about a 50/50 split in ideological leanings. The trick is that a conservative has to fight two battles: defeat the Democrat nominee and defeat the leftwing media. Disgust with the Obama years should make it easier for conservatives in 2016. It doesn't happen often enough, but defeating Democrats is sweeter than sweet.
Another thought on Ted Cruz: the man is brilliant and shouldn't be underestimated. Notice he is making his announcement tomorrow at Liberty University. That's no mistake. Cruz seeks to tap a vast reservoir of conservative Americans who identify with traditional Christian values. Christian conservatives largely sat out the last two presidential elections feeling no candidate represented their views. If these religious conservatives get behind Cruz, he becomes tough to beat.
It would be good for the country to have a clear choice between a real conservative and a real liberal. Have an honest series of debates and let the people decide.
It would be good for the country to have a clear choice between a real conservative and a real liberal. Have an honest series of debates and let the people decide.
witness23
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Another Huckabee with no real aspirations of being the President, just another carnival barker looking to fleece the rubes o' plenty in the Evangelical sector of the party. By the way I'm an Evangelical, just not one that is easily fooled or led by the shenanigans of the likes of Cruz.
Replace the word "conservative" with "liberal" and you could be describing Hillary Clinton, plus she's a woman.
Agree with your comments about Cruz, except the statement that the Christian conservatives largely sat out the last election. Yes,some might have sat out, but statistically they voted overwhelmingly for Romney,and more so than they did for George W Bush in 2004.
It was mainly fiscal conservatives who are for a smaller government that stayed home. Fortunately, Cruz is a candidate that is both a social conservative and a fiscal conservative.
He will have great support from the tea party,social conservatives, and the smaller government conservatives. The challenge for him will be from the big government establishment republicans in his own party, and the hacks in the MSM who will do everything they can to try to tear him down.
your joking right??
RLENT
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Agree ... but that won't stop Amerika's own holy warriors from claiming otherwise ...
Taking some things on faith alone - rather than relying on actual facts - does pose certain liabilities at times.
Being divorced from reality being one of them.
His poll numbers have been sliding and he hasn't seen much in the way of double digit support for sometime. That isn't a particularly good sign.
The challenge for him - if he were to get the nomination - will be appealing to middle-of-the-road moderate, centrist voters (which tend to be the deciding factor in most elections) that view him as an right-wing extremist.
RLENT
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That's kind of an overly-simplistic characterization.
As of 2013 Gallup calls it at: self-identified conservatives stand at 34%, moderates at 38%, and liberals at 23%.
The real trick - for some conservatives at least (and liberals as well, for that matter) - is that after throwing red meat to the most extreme elements of their base, they have to convince the moderates that they really aren't as extreme as they are on record as being.
That's a problem.
Of course, that is being said from the viewpoint of someone who was disgusted with Obama before he even took the oath or set foot in office as POTUS.
This may be a startling revelation to you, but not everyone is quite as disgusted with Obama as you are.
Personally, I'm not particularly a fan of the guy, but I'm not in the rabid detractor crowd either.
If anything, I find the rabid detractor crowd just a little more scary than the big O himself.
Nobody laughed him off. By 1980 he was a well know politician having been governor of California and a campaigned for the republican nomination in 1976.
I also seem to remember a hugh block called Reagan Democrats.
I find it highly amusing that those who heartily endorse Elizabeth Warren as a viable and inspiring possible candidate for POTUS ridicule Ted Cruz, disregarding the fact that Warren is farther left on the political spectrum than Cruz is on the right. The problem with Cruz is that he's a first-term senator, and IMHO we don't need another first-term senator in the White House. The good thing about Cruz is that he's smarter than any Democrat candidate mentioned so far, and is absolutely fearless in delivering the conservative message. For doing that he's already being demonized and painted with the usual labels as "radical" and "wacko" along with ridiculed for being a Christian. Comparing his credentials with those of Warren or then-Senator Obama, he's head and shoulders above both of them and would shred either of them or Hillary in any debate that might take place. Saying he has no chance at this juncture is a bit premature.
He initially was laughed off as a presidential candidate by many and not taken seriously. A lot of it was from his own party. He was viewed as just a former actor and Governor of a state with fruits and nuts, who had limited national appeal. In 1976, he was rejected by the establishment and kept off the Ford ticket after a very good showing in the republican primaries. In 1980, you had 'conservatives' like George Will predicting that Establishment types like Howard Baker or George HW Bush would win the nomination. Again he was not taken seriously... until it was too late,and we won the nomination by tapping into the electorate, with the right message. He was able to connect that message with dissaffected Democrats who suffered under the disasterous Carter years and won convincingly.
It's not out of the realm that Cruz can do the same.
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She wants the job if Hillary doesn't run. The left will want her to run too because they see the conservatives disenchanted with the establishment and unwilling to vote for another liberal Republican.(They'll stay home again) Perfect scenario for them to push through another far left candidate to continue what Obama has started. Warren is Obama's preferred candidate. Hillary will be thrown under the bus if possible by him. There have already been a couple examples of this. I personally don't see much difference between Warren and Hillary, but make no mistake, he prefers the former to continue with his radical agenda.
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I think Ted Cruz will make an excellent candidate amongst religious, social and fiscal conservatives. He's articulate, fearless and speaks with conviction. Huckabee lacks the intellectual heft to hold his own with Cruz. Rand Paul is an opportunistic weasel not to be trusted by conservatives. Ben Carson has no experience in dealing with public policy and social issues, although his heart is in the right place.
If Ted Cruz can get his message out to the people and avoid media pitfalls, he has a fair shot.
If Ted Cruz can get his message out to the people and avoid media pitfalls, he has a fair shot.
Reagan had an easy charm and likeability. Even Tip O'Neill liked Reagan. He was a masterful politician.
Yes he was, and we will never see the likes of him again, unfortunately.