Congressional report: US guns fuel Mexico violence

[layoutshooter]

Well. I believe that ANYTHING is possible. I have no doubt that our government would resort to ANY MEANS possible to insure their own power and glory. That is what government does. Always has, always will. That is IF they are left to their own devices and not controlled by the people. Right now, We the People are NOT controlling the government at almost any level and the longer that goes on the more extreme things will get.

I am not young any more either. I am on the down side of sixty. My Dad is 88, soon to be 89. Do I believe that sometime in the next 20 years our government could degrade that far? Without a doubt.

 

[greg334]

I don't know how anyone can consider this congress and this president left leaning when If you (Layout) know ex-Soviet citizens, they should have told you that their border under any left leaning leadership not just prevented their citizens from escaping but also secured their border to the point that deer and bear wouldn't get over it.

See WE have done the opposite, we have an open border, even have the ATF act as a source for firearms while Mexico has been instrumental in 'assisting' an invasion of our country. I think the Mexican president should realize that the ONLY way we can stop any arms is to shut down the entire border which should include the billions of money being transferred from the US to Mexico. I think there should be no comprimise - he doesn't want guns, we don't want an invasion - win win for all.

As for the BBC, GIVE me the BBC programming over the crap we have here. I'm soooo tired of having poorly speaking, unintelligent people being made stars because they tell the news. At least with their world service, things seem to be examined a bit better and a lot more centered than Fox, CNN and the former network stuff. I would not want to see the UK dismantle the Beeb any time soon.

 

[layoutshooter]

Our borders are being left open to insure an influx of "poor people" to change the demographics. Low wage, low skilled and under educated people are far easier to control that higher paid, high skilled, well educated people are.

Just as our "civil rights" laws, such as "protected classes" are designed to fragment the people. To pit one group against the other. It is far easier to control a fragmented society. That is also why you will never see a "National Language" to perpetuate that fragmentation.

That is why our education system has been dumbed down. That is why welfare is so dangerous. It is designed to keep people in their place. Dependent people are controllable people.

Our border are also being left open to insure easier passage of those who would attack this Nation.

The BBC is an arm of and is 100% controlled by the British government. While I agree that SOME of their programming is better than ours it is the propaganda arm of a government. Therefor it cannot be trusted.

Bear and deer can cross the border in Russia.

There will be changes here if and when the government gains complete control. Like no more free movements between states. You will also see borders sealed to keep us in. Camps are NOT out of the question either.

One of my co-workers spent 3 years escaping from Poland. Much of that time crawling on his face in mud. I listened to his stories. They inspired me to fight the extreme, from either right or left, with every breath I take. He had a price on his head, at least through the early '90's and lived here under an assumed name.

 

[witness23]

I can't believe you are this paranoid irl.

Hey......don't use that word "you", or the "you" police will be after "you". Got it? Good. Carry on.

 

[witness23]

This may be a bit naive, but I don't see it happening.
At least, not in my lifetime.

This is just the beginning of the slippery slope we're on, donch'ya know?

Or did we start that slippery slope during Woodrow Wilson's term? I don't know. Something like that, but they're coming for our guns, man. And if you cared one bit for your children and your grand-children(if you have any) you should be concerned my friend, very concerned.

 

[layoutshooter]

This is just the beginning of the slippery slope we're on, donch'ya know?

Or did we start that slippery slope during Woodrow Wilson's term? I don't know. Something like that, but there coming for our guns, man. And if you cared one bit for your children and your grand-children(if you have any) you should be concerned my friend, very concerned.

WOW!! Finally said something intelligent!! Don't forget, you are one of those "uneducated fools" that "clings" to either your religion, guns, or both.

With each bill forced on the American public our freedoms become more and more removed and the controls grip tighter.

It started as far back as Lincoln when he used the Federal Army to destroy States rights. Maybe further back than that.

Too bad so MANY Americans are willing to give up freedom, for any reason.

 

[witness23]

Absolutely, at least this is one thing I think we can all agree upon. If they control our ability to keep and bear arms, then we as a nation are kaput! You can take that to the bank my friend.

 

[greg334]

Our borders are being left open to insure an influx of "poor people" to change the demographics. Low wage, low skilled and under educated people are far easier to control that higher paid, high skilled, well educated people are.

I can't agree - it has been easy so far to control the population as high paid/higher educated then low skilled unemployed people.

Just as our "civil rights" laws, such as "protected classes" are designed to fragment the people. To pit one group against the other. It is far easier to control a fragmented society. That is also why you will never see a "National Language" to perpetuate that fragmentation.

Civil rights was created to right a wrong, but we as a nation went too far overboard and created more of a mess. It isn't we are fragmented as much as we are ignorant.

That is why our education system has been dumbed down. That is why welfare is so dangerous. It is designed to keep people in their place. Dependent people are controllable people.

If this was true, then the soviets would have had a great number of their population reading Russian and never attempting English or German. Castro's Cuba according to the UN has a higher literacy rate than we do. Well you got the welfare about right, it does force those on it to be dependent on the government. BUT then when you think about it, who's at fault for the breakdown of the community - is it the leftist in the government or the people who only focus on themselves?

Our border are also being left open to insure easier passage of those who would attack this Nation.

That I agree with 100% plus I think it has to do with political pandering and the need to maintain government jobs outside of law enforcement.

The BBC is an arm of and is 100% controlled by the British government. While I agree that SOME of their programming is better than ours it is the propaganda arm of a government. Therefor it cannot be trusted.

NBC is a propaganda arm of the government, and so is ABC, CBS and others who operate under the licensing of the US government. NBC is special because it is owned by GE - you put it together.

Bear and deer can cross the border in Russia.

Maybe now but not in 1978, or in 1986.

There will be changes here if and when the government gains complete control. Like no more free movements between states. You will also see borders sealed to keep us in. Camps are NOT out of the question either.

Well it already has happened. In this industry by the states I have to have the right equipment to enter california - I don't have free movement to that state for the purpose of making a living.

Camps?

I don't think we will get to the point of the Soviet style living.

 

[witness23]

Go ahead, keep your head buried in the sand.

 

[layoutshooter]

You can believe what ever you want Greg, at least for now. I just don't agree with much of what you say. Such is life.

 

[clcooper]

If you only read this messageboard it's already happened.

and if you drink their Kool-Aid and cant think for your self . if you wear rose colored glass . you would believe that the governments today would never do any thing that has happened in the past . and if you believe it cant happen today. then you never believed it ever happened . what they say about the history of the world is all make believe to you . because humans never would do stuff like that to other humans . if you don't think it can happen today then you still believe in the Easter bunny

just like the Mafia . there was no Mafia until 1960 in the USA . . but when was Al and Lucky in the MAFIA. there was only a hand full of FBI investigating the Mafia before 1960 . because Hoover said there was no Mafia . until Joe V. told the congress hearing about the Mafia . then all of a sudden the FBI started adding more agents to the Mafia division. and slowly stopped worry about the communist

keep drinking their koolaid .

 

[scottm4211]

I don't like kool aid. Too sweet. What I choose to do is look at what goes on where I am and not freak out about if's, and's, or but's.

 

[greg334]

just like the Mafia . there was no Mafia until 1960 in the USA . . but when was Al and Lucky in the MAFIA. there was only a hand full of FBI investigating the Mafia before 1960 . because Hoover said there was no Mafia . until Joe V. told the congress hearing about the Mafia . then all of a sudden the FBI started adding more agents to the Mafia division. and slowly stopped worry about the communist

They knew, it was common knowledge that the "mafia" fought against German sabotage during the war but it wasn't until 1957 with a number of high 'officials' being caught during a meeting in Apalachin NY, that it became news worthy.

It was Kennedy, both John and Robert who went after organized crime in both the 50's and 60's BUT it was that same organized crime syndicate who made their daddy money during his bootlegging days, kept their daddy out of trouble when he pee'd on Capone's and the Detroit gangs legs and kept the family alive when they screwed a lot of people when their daddy became head of the SEC and put the squeeze on those who were doing the same thing he was. Sometimes it makes you wonder why they are both dead.

 

[clcooper]

I don't like kool aid. Too sweet. What I choose to do is look at what goes on where I am and not freak out about if's, and's, or but's.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO THINK ???
how can you run a business then ???

so you never look ahead of you when you drive down the road .
you just wait until it happens then you do something .
you never plan anything . never save money for a rainy day .

so you don't care if the a government is killing everybody just as long as you are not there . and you will only worry about it when they start killing at the place you are at . then you will want everybody to help YOU .
SO you are the type that is only worried about ME. you are the type that ,where you are going is more important then anybody else . your heath is more important then anybody else . you are more important so you should always be the first in line .

so are you the weak minded type that will follow Charles Manson ??? and would not know what to do weather it was right or wrong . WHAT IS RIGHT , WHAT IS WRONG can you tell the difference . is it right to drive 75 . when a sign says 65 . is it right to hit another vehicle and drive away .

is there 2 different type of Laws one for you and your friends . and one for everybody else . so if your friend gets caught DUI . he should get a slap on the *** . but if anybody else gets caught DUI they should spend 20 years in jail .

 

[scottm4211]

Made it 50 yrs just fine. Thanks for your concern though

 

[clcooper]

They knew, it was common knowledge that the "mafia" fought against German sabotage during the war but it wasn't until 1957 with a number of high 'officials' being caught during a meeting in Apalachin NY, that it became news worthy.

It was Kennedy, both John and Robert who went after organized crime in both the 50's and 60's BUT it was that same organized crime syndicate who made their daddy money during his bootlegging days, kept their daddy out of trouble when he pee'd on Capone's and the Detroit gangs legs and kept the family alive when they screwed a lot of people when their daddy became head of the SEC and put the squeeze on those who were doing the same thing he was. Sometimes it makes you wonder why they are both dead.

What is a organized crime syndicate ??? what type of crimes do the do ??

can you please show me where the Government ever amitted to asking the Mafia to watch the docks . LOL the government has never said they asked for their help . and probly never will .

""The ten-month investigation of the Warren Commission of 1963–1964 concluded that the President was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone and that Jack Ruby acted alone when he killed Oswald before he could stand trial. These conclusions were initially supported by the American public; however, polls conducted from 1966 to 2004 found that as many as 80 percent of Americans have suspected that there was a plot or cover-up.""

I like this part ""as many as 80 percent of Americans have suspected that there was a plot or cover-up.""
but i guess things have changed so much that nothing like that could every happen agian

keep drinking the koolaid

 

[clcooper]

Made it 50 yrs just fine. Thanks for your concern though

so glad YOU made it that long . now how about YOU be concerned about others . so they can make it 50 yrs just fine like you did . or is it why worry about them . it is all about ME ME ME . lets pass laws so it is harder for them . lets make them do everything by the book . but ME doesn't have to .

WHY SHOULD I CARE . I SHOULD ONLY BE WORRIED ABOUT ME . I SHOULD NOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT MY CHILDREN OR EVEN MY GRAND CHILDREN . ALL I NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IS ME ME ME . why should i worry if they make a bathroom tax . a breathing tax . hell let them tax everything . i only have a few more years left .

 

[OntarioVanMan]

WOW!! Finally said something intelligent!!

It only took over 1600 posts.....indeed...

 

[scottm4211]

cl you sound like a communist. Or a Canadian.

 

[Ragman]

cl you sound like a communist. Or a Canadian.

Maybe a communist canadian.