Wow! I actually agree with leo on a subject. Whoa is me.
You do show a glimmer of hope now and then.
Concealed carry in schools
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You do show a glimmer of hope now and then.
You are utterly ignorant about the Sikh religion. And you are viewing the Kirpan solely in the light of that ignorance. To the Sikhs, a Kirpan is similar in every way to a knife except to that of an actual weapon. It is a symbolic weapon, never an actual weapon, in the same way that a cross is a symbol of death and not an actual instrument of death. The mere thought of using a Kripan as a weapon is sacrilegious and offensive to a Sikh, in the same way that Christians would use a Baptism pool to drown babies.
While your (and most Americans') ignorance about the Sikh religion is completely understandable, it's still ignorance. Fortunately, ignorance is one of those things that can be fixed, assuming you want to fix it (and, of course, obviously, that you're not stupid, because, you know, as we all know, you can't fix stupid).
And you are completely wrong. You presume I don't know what it means to the bearer while ignoring that it is possible for anyone to have a break and far more than that, it is probable that the vast majority of people do not hold those beliefs and would see that as a ready source of a weapon for their use.
The fact that you call it a weapon, even going to the lengths of rationally describing it as one, means I'm not wrong, much less completely. The fact that a majority of people do not golf those beliefs, and are utterly ignorant of them, makes it understandable that they, and you, ignorantly refer to it as weapon.
The point is that while Christians have been aggressively asserting their freedom of religion, they've forgotten that Christianity isn't the only religion in the US. They thought freedom of religion applied to their religion exclusively, because who else ever demanded it? Now, the shoe is on the other foot, and it seems to be pinching.
Apparently that is the case..
Slo-Ride
Veteran Expediter
I maybe wrong here but there is nothing stopping one from praying in school or carrying a bible.. I think if you teach or preach prayers is where the issue comes into play..
That's the way it should be, but alas, it isn't. There has been many students prevented from prayer.
A Bible is right inside your cellphone, free downloads u know, I guess all cellphones will have to be handed in when you get to school now...lol
There is no reason to have a phone in school anyway.
Whether prayer is allowed in school depends upon the circs. The [public] school must not be seen to be promoting religion, because they'd be unable to do it without leaving someone's beliefs out. They cannot stop any student from silent prayer, though, and I don't think the Bible is prohibited - as long as it isn't waved in the face of others. [Like the Kirpan!] The 10 Commandments are not a part of all religions, therefore they are not permitted, same as quotations from the Q'uran [whatever the correct spelling] would not be.
Students are [hopefully] taught an overview of the 5 major religions [Christianity, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, & Buddhist] and they are expected to have the same respect for others' as they expect for their own.
Cellphones are a nono in every school I know of, and it has nothing to do with the downloads available [except the ones that could help them pass tests, lol], and everything to do with respect for the teacher and other students.
My granddaughter is 17, and she still whines about it, but she leaves her phone in her locker.
I have 5 grandsons. I will ask them today if they are getting an overview of the 4 major religions at Red Bank High School, Chattanooga tn...........I would say not, but I will ask them today. It is an interesting questions though. Have one other grandson in homeschooling, don't think it is covered there, but I will ask. If those religions are in a video game, bet they know it.lol
JohnWC
Veteran Expediter
We were founded on freedom of religion along with taxation and other rights but the Christian religion has been taken out of our government schools but other religions seem now to have more rights than the one that founded this country could that why we are going to hell in a hand bag
We absolutely were not "founded on freedom of religion". That is just one of the freedoms the Founding Fathers considered essential, [because England required citizens to follow the King's religion]. It is exactly because they did not want a 'state' or 'official' religion imposed upon citizens that they included it in the Bill of Rights. That is the very reason it must not be treated as 'government approved' in public schools. The Christian religion has been taken out of [public] schools because it had no business being put in to start with, except as part of a course on comparative religions, or an overview/explanation of the 5 major religions of the world. Those who wished their children to be instructed in a particular religion should opt for a school that is devoted to teaching it. If you don't understand this, then your education is incomplete.
Other religions do not have "more rights" - they have precisely the same rights. That's tough to accept when you're used to the absence of competition, but that's how it works, because: freedom.
PS The term is "going to hell in a handbasket", and it's a reminder that Christianity has competition, because other religions don't subscribe to the belief in hell.