co driver info

rts0073

Seasoned Expediter
I am thinking about taking a job as a co driver for the owner of a straight truck was wondering what some of the owners on this site are paying. Ihave been talking about .25-.30per loaded mile for all loaded miles does this sound fair also who should pay the occupational insurance. this is in the truck with the owner not in the truck with someone else for the owner. all input would be appreciated.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
Sounds cheap to me. What about the deadhead miles?
If you are not paying for fuel, the norm seems to be 40/60% split.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
25 to 30 cents all paid miles is in line with with pay for the paid miles part, But Pelicn said you need to know about the empty move and deadhead miles. Also what the pay is for the other things like detention, stop-off, border crossing, hand unload, etc.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
He said he'll be a co-driver, which means 20%. 20% of 1.25 is .25. So that doesn't sound cheap to me. And yes... you need to get details on other pay as well, as was mentioned.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
And if the pay per mile is more than 1.25 for loaded miles, and he's still only getting .25-.30 a mile?
He said he would be teaming with the owner of the truck, so it still sounds cheap to me. And no mention of other "pays"
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Yes, the lack of any other pay mentioned makes me wonder too. But tell me a company that pays 1.25 to 1.50 before FSC. I think the .25-.30 is a good start... especially if the company gives 1.12 rate for their "special" customers, or likes to put van freight (along with van rate) on bigger trucks.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
The mileage pay is within reason, (like others said, ask about the accessorials: deadhead, fuel surcharge, layover, detention), and the Workers Comp premiums should be paid by whomever is going to collect the benefits, if the day comes to collect them.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
If I only had to pay .25 per mile for the loaded miles, I could have retired much earlier.:eek:
Based on that, I am paying way too much.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Doesn't Werner start greenhorns out at like .27 a mile?
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
Pelicn Said:

And if the pay per mile is more than 1.25 for loaded miles, and he's still only getting .25-.30 a mile?
He said he would be teaming with the owner of the truck, so it still sounds cheap to me. And no mention of other "pays"

I thought he said that he would drive with another driver

Rts said: this is in the truck with the owner not in the truck with someone else for the owner.

But it does not matter who the other driver is the pay should be the same.

As far as .25/.30 cpm would it be better if he got half of 50/60 cents per loaded mile.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Some of that would depend on the company and what they pay on FSC's. In this case, the lead driver should have the fuel covered ahead of the co-drivers pay. If not, the co-driver could potentially make more than the lead driver. My opinion would be to provide a percentage after cost.
BTW....who only pays $1.12 per mile? Oops. Never mind.
 
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jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
IF he was on a 40/60 split then I still think that part of the pay is average.
20% of $1.20 is 24 cents
20% of $1.40 is 28 cents
20% of $1.45 is 29 cents

Where is the low pay?
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
I am thinking about taking a job as a co driver for the owner of a straight truck
this is in the truck with the owner not in the truck with someone else for the owner.

He's not splitting it with another driver, he would be splitting it with the owner and talking about just loaded miles. This is cheap!
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
He's not splitting it with another driver, he would be splitting it with the owner and talking about just loaded miles. This is cheap!

Since no one has all of the details it is not the wisest thing for me to try and interpret what he meant, but here goes.

1000 mile load paying $1,200.00 driver "A" gets $250.00. Driver "B" gets $250.00. Total pay to drivers $500.00 that comes to around 41.6%. Again I ask where is the low pay IF they are on a 40/60

He did not say that he was going to split .25 / .30 cents a mile.
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
He's not splitting it with another driver, he would be splitting it with the owner and talking about just loaded miles. This is cheap!

If he were getting half of 40%, as a codriver, so 20%, on a 40/60 split, and not paying any expenses (except his own occupational insurance coverage, meals, showers, cellphone, whatever), a 1000mile run grossing $1200, would mean $240 for him, and $240 for the codriver.
At $0.25/loaded mile, he gets a bit better, at $250 for the run.
Whether the codriver is also the owner or not, should be irrelevant.
Would it be realistic to hope for 3000-4000 loaded miles/week as a team? If so, that would be $750-$1000 in his pocket per week, with only a few personal expenses.
If he got $0.30/loaded mile, he'd get $900-$1200/week.
For someone not taking a big risk as an OO, it doesn't sound that shabby to me (provided of course, he can stand living with his codriver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) He could always decide to jump in after awhile, and buy his own truck, and get the whole shebang of revenue and expenses all to himself.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
There are many variables in the question "what am I worth"? I have had team members getting $.20 per mile as their share, and were not worth that as steering wheel holders, with their freshly minted CDL, and whole month driving experience.

At the same time, i've had folks with plenty of experience expediting that were not worth a plug nickel to me because they just couldn't get "the way it's sposed to be" outa their head long enough to make any money at it.

Many seem to base "their" worth, on what they need, or, what most others are getting, rather than what they are really worth as a tool. Because in the grand scheme of things, that's all we are is a tool as part of the mechanics of things in the tool box.

Soooo, I certainly wouldn't "set in stone" "my" value based on what you might read here. I'd try and base "my" value on what I can contribute, not on what the "experts" say you are worth, when they are not paying you. There is a real good chance that if "they" were digging in thir own pocket, your "value" would be different, depending on your contribution.
 

rts0073

Seasoned Expediter
thanks to everyone for your replies i thought it would be decent if the truck can run 3000 or more miles on a fairly consistent basis per week i know that won't happen every week but i think it may be decent to test these sometime murky waters. have a good day and thanks again
 

flroadrunner

Seasoned Expediter
Some of that would depend on the company and what they pay on FSC's. In this case, the lead driver should have the fuel covered ahead of the co-drivers pay. If not, the co-driver could potentially make more than the lead driver. My opinion would be to provide a percentage after cost.
BTW....who only pays $1.12 per mile? Oops. Never mind.

That would be Express-1 that pays $1.12 per mile on mosst of their straight truck loads.
 
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