A church is defaced and the media ignores it except for a couple of small local outlets. Wonder why?
Church Defaced by Homosexuals Gets Little News Coverage
Church Defaced by Homosexuals Gets Little News Coverage
church defaced, media ignores
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Because (a) they have no suspects in the case, and (b) church vandalism happens with such regularity that unless something about it is newsworthy, it's not going to be reported outside of the local community.
One, it is beyond sad that church vandalism is so regular that it is not news worthy. It is even more sad that few are outraged at that fact.
I wonder why such crimes are not important to our law enforcement people. After all they strike at the very heart of the Constitution, the First Amendment, part of the Bill of Rights. Seems to me this should be treated as a hate crime.
I agree.
Such crimes are important to law enforcement.
In most states it is. There might be some states where it's not either a "hate" crime specifically, or doesn't carry special charges and punishment, but I'm not aware of any. Some states impose more stringent penalties for the destruction of certain types of property, like religious buildings, cemeteries, schools and government facilities, as well as motor vehicles, as places that are felonies to vandalize and carry "special circumstances" penalties, but most have specific statutes to cover religious facilities as being hate crime offenses.
For example, Kentucky calls it "Institutional Vandalism" and states:
So, you need to know which objects are defined in KRS 525.110. (Some readers here may get a special kick out of this).
So in Kentucky, you desecrate a church, or the American flag, and you're in deep doodoo. Kentucky takes its objects of veneration by the public seriously.
But many states have specific hate crime legislation aimed at religious buildings, like this one in California:
Maybe I should have said that it is too bad this is not more important to our elected officials. Maybe I should have said that it is too bad this is not more important to our justice department.
Again, this strikes at the heart of what this country is based on. Then again, with the attacks on other segments of the Bill of Rights, maybe I should not be surprised. IF the press, who are the guardians of our freedom, are not on this, we may be in deeper trouble than I thought we were. Kind of strange they are not on it, after all, it is the exact SAME First Amendment that protects them.
Again, this strikes at the heart of what this country is based on. Then again, with the attacks on other segments of the Bill of Rights, maybe I should not be surprised. IF the press, who are the guardians of our freedom, are not on this, we may be in deeper trouble than I thought we were. Kind of strange they are not on it, after all, it is the exact SAME First Amendment that protects them.
Um - if there are no suspects, how does the writer justify the statement that the vandals were gay?
If it's because of the scrawled comment "God is gay", that's pretty clear evidence that the writer doesn't know the first thing about the culture of youth, which is also the culture of idiots who deface public property.
In the lexicon of young people, 'gay' means basically whatever they don't like, [they definitely think homework is gay] and has zero relationship to sexual orientation.
It can be hard to keep up with the latest jargon among the youngsters [sick is now quite a compliment!] but jeez, gay has been the 'go to' word among the vocabulary challenged for quite a few years.
If it's because of the scrawled comment "God is gay", that's pretty clear evidence that the writer doesn't know the first thing about the culture of youth, which is also the culture of idiots who deface public property.
In the lexicon of young people, 'gay' means basically whatever they don't like, [they definitely think homework is gay] and has zero relationship to sexual orientation.
It can be hard to keep up with the latest jargon among the youngsters [sick is now quite a compliment!] but jeez, gay has been the 'go to' word among the vocabulary challenged for quite a few years.
I guess maybe because militant homosexual groups have been disrupting Catholic services and defacing Catholic Churches for a long time now.
Hmmm, so based on this artical,
“The graffiti included a reference to homosexuality, several four-letter words and a swastika, a source told The Acorn. One scrawl reportedly said, ‘God is gay.’” So because of this the only logical conclusion is that the church had to be "Defaced by Homosexuals"
Sounds like the author of the artical is not helping the cause of hate. I found it ironic for the author to complain about derogatory comments by making one of his own. "Any time someone makes a derogatory comment about homosexuality, the gaystapo goes into action".
I in no way condone what was done, what I do disagree with is the conclusions made.
“The graffiti included a reference to homosexuality, several four-letter words and a swastika, a source told The Acorn. One scrawl reportedly said, ‘God is gay.’” So because of this the only logical conclusion is that the church had to be "Defaced by Homosexuals"
Sounds like the author of the artical is not helping the cause of hate. I found it ironic for the author to complain about derogatory comments by making one of his own. "Any time someone makes a derogatory comment about homosexuality, the gaystapo goes into action".
I in no way condone what was done, what I do disagree with is the conclusions made.
Because according to wacko right wing hate mongers, who else could it be.
Obviously, they are teenaged skinheads with Tourette Syndrome.
Citations?
Defacing property is a youth [usually, though not always, gang related] crime, and not something that rates much as 'news'. Graffiti just doesn't rate headlines, or even much notice, unless it's particularly striking in some way.
Disrupting Catholic services, though? That's something I'd expect to cause quite an uproar among many people, and yet, I can't recall seeing a single story about it.
You don't them because they are normally buried in the back pages of the "news papers", IF they are ever even reported. There is little uproar over anything that is anti-religion these days. It also happens in other countries, like England, in Devon. There is NO valid reason for it EVER to occur. It is doubly worse in a country that had religious freedom as one of it's more important founding beliefs.
When churches are defaced it tends to be more than just youth. It tends to be more hate based. Like when a Jewish synagogue gets Nazi symbols spray painted on them. Lest you forget, the Catholic Church was also persecuted by the Nazis. It is more than just Graffiti.
Wait - if I don't see them because they're normally buried in the back pages of the newspaper, then where are you seeing them? Because I read every page, [except sports, and once in awhile, I read that too].
I disagree about there being 'little uproar' over anything anti religion these days - the past few years, the religious folk have become even more outspoken about perceived offenses against them, so that dog don't hunt.
I stand by my assertion that defacing property [churches or otherwise] is a youth oriented activity, for the most part, not religiously motivated, but just plain stupid [and bored] young idiots.
Swastikas on synagogues? Yes, indeed, that's a hate crime - but how often does it happen, really? How many 'taggers' are also skinheads?
Lest you forget, the Nazis didn't care for intellectuals either, or artists, or physically/mentally handicapped people, or 'Gypsies', or the elderly, or Communists, or 'minority' groups of any kind. Any of those groups being targeted with swastikas?
Not a whole bunch, overall, IMO.
Vandalism is mostly a youth thing, but vandalism of religious buildings rarely is.
One of the reasons church vandalism isn't front page headlines is precisely because of our religious freedom and diversity, not in spite of it. If we had a single state religion, every attack on a church would be an attack on the country, and would be big news everywhere. But with a bazillion different religions, its only big news locally or sometimes within that particular religion, certainly not national news.
There's a Messianic Jewish synagogue in Memphis that gets vandalized on the average about for times a year. That's just not gonna be headline news in Buffalo or Albuquerque. It's barely news in Memphis, especially when you consider that the vandals are almost always non-Messianic Jews.
Incidentally, the most often vandalized churches in America are southern, black churches, and even that's not front page national news.
One of the reasons church vandalism isn't front page headlines is precisely because of our religious freedom and diversity, not in spite of it. If we had a single state religion, every attack on a church would be an attack on the country, and would be big news everywhere. But with a bazillion different religions, its only big news locally or sometimes within that particular religion, certainly not national news.
There's a Messianic Jewish synagogue in Memphis that gets vandalized on the average about for times a year. That's just not gonna be headline news in Buffalo or Albuquerque. It's barely news in Memphis, especially when you consider that the vandals are almost always non-Messianic Jews.
Incidentally, the most often vandalized churches in America are southern, black churches, and even that's not front page national news.