One of the many problems with unions. Is this really a good idea?
Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News
Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News
Chrysler to rehire drunks
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Nothing new. I seen it in every union job I ever worked. They have to take back those who are caught stealing as well. Even seen a union steward who kept beer in springs all over the park I worked at kept on the job.
Sorry dave, don't blame the union. They were only doing what unions do.
Blame Chrysler for caving in.
That is why I avoid unions. They no longer protect the worker. Protecting those who would drink, or do drugs, on the job is proof positive.
OK fine, but where is the criticism of Chrysler for caving?
I think you will find there are things in the contract that requires them to rehire them. Chrysler should remove the union, but that will never happen.
That may be the case, but, I think criticism is in order for agreeing to it, if they are indeed required to rehire them. ( did that make sense? )
No, it does not make sense to reasonable people but to leftists it makes all the sense in the world. It is NOT the fault of the drunk he is a drunk. He is not responsible for his actions therefor he/she/it should be rehired. The evil profit making booze people are at fault.
I wish I was good at looking up stuff on the internet. I would post a story of a man killed where I used to work. He was just about cut in half when he was caught between a work truck and the pick up that hit him at over 40MPH. The man that hit him was the steward at our park. He was a total drunk. They did not fire him either.
Requiring union membership or dues paying, is anti-freedom. Soon 'party' membership will be required to hold a job.
zorry
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I've got 19 years in the machinists union and the teamsters.
I've never been aware of anyone rehired for stealing or drunkenness where I've worked.
The Big Three just let the UAW get too big. Labor is too far removed from the decision makers. Management agreed to too much to keep labor peace. The mindset of the worker is all wrong.
I've always said the union is only as good as your local. I guess I was blessed with usually being in a pretty good local.
I actually was never in a position where I didn't have to work. I wouldn't want that.
I have been in positions where I've been pretty well compensated.
I've never been aware of anyone rehired for stealing or drunkenness where I've worked.
The Big Three just let the UAW get too big. Labor is too far removed from the decision makers. Management agreed to too much to keep labor peace. The mindset of the worker is all wrong.
I've always said the union is only as good as your local. I guess I was blessed with usually being in a pretty good local.
I actually was never in a position where I didn't have to work. I wouldn't want that.
I have been in positions where I've been pretty well compensated.
zorry
Veteran Expediter
Why is joining a union anti-freedom ?
A union is a business. If that business( the union) made Chrysler a job you want, why can't they be compensated for their effort,
You have the freedom to work at the seven-eleven if that's you choice.
I have seen it in the United Steel Workers, The United Mine Workers and even the Teamsters.
I was REQUIRED to belong to AFSCME when I worked at the park in PA. It was an AFSCME union steward that hit and killed the young father of two at Moraine State Park. He was known to have beer in cold springs all over the park. They protected him. I mean, after all, it was only a seasonal employee that was killed. They are not as important as a drunken union steward.
I was REQUIRED to belong to AFSCME when I worked at the park in PA. It was an AFSCME union steward that hit and killed the young father of two at Moraine State Park. He was known to have beer in cold springs all over the park. They protected him. I mean, after all, it was only a seasonal employee that was killed. They are not as important as a drunken union steward.
zorry
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The problem isn't unions. The problem is companies that don't keep the unions in check.
My family owned various trucking concerns over a 50 year or so period.
The most profitable one was union. My father was there almost every day( at least an hr in the morning and evening during golf season). He had very loyal emloyees. He treated them very well.
He never signed a contract that was bad for the company.
My family owned various trucking concerns over a 50 year or so period.
The most profitable one was union. My father was there almost every day( at least an hr in the morning and evening during golf season). He had very loyal emloyees. He treated them very well.
He never signed a contract that was bad for the company.
Why would a union even want to protect drunks, dopers or thieves? It does not say much for them. Then again, they ceased to be what they were when safety was truly an issue. Now they are just another big business in their own right with strong ties to Marxism.
The process of binding arbitration is part of the CBA that both sides agreed to. Both sides agreed to binding arbitration before going into arbitration. Clearly, Chrysler needs to do the same thing MLB did after losing an arbitration decision with Ryan Braun, get rid of the current arbitrator and hire one that's on their side of things. 
zorry
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Yes, you're right LOS. Wrong things happen.
The teamsters in Vegas are a pretty shady bunch.
The drunk steward may have kept his job in a civil service situation and in other non- union jobs.
He should have been fired. The union was wrong if the facts are as presented.
My point is all unions aren't bad. Bad unions are bad.
The teamsters in Vegas are a pretty shady bunch.
The drunk steward may have kept his job in a civil service situation and in other non- union jobs.
He should have been fired. The union was wrong if the facts are as presented.
My point is all unions aren't bad. Bad unions are bad.