Chrysler, a lost company?

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Chrysler to offer workers up to $100K - AP

DETROIT - Chrysler Group will offer all 49,600 hourly workers in the U.S. up to $100,000 to leave the company as part of a recovery plan announced earlier this month. The company, which lost $1.475 billion in 2006 and said it expects losses to continue through 2007, said on Feb. 14 it intends to shed 13,000 jobs, including 11,000 hourly positions and 2,000 salaried, as it tries to further shrink itself to match reduced demand for its products.

A company document obtained by The Associated Press outlines an early retirement program for hourly workers near retirement age and a buyout program for those with at least one year of tenure with the company.

The offers were reported earlier Tuesday by The Detroit News.

Under the buyout offer, workers would receive a pretax lump-sum payment of $100,000 plus six months of medical and vision coverage in exchange for their departure.

The early retirement package includes a $70,000 payment, health care benefits and whatever pension a worker was eligible for based on age and years of service.

According to the document, the
United Auto Workers union and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group agreed on the offers, which are not as lucrative as some made to workers leaving Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Corp. under restructuring plans.

"UAW members are once again stepping forward to make hard choices," union President Ron Gettelfinger said in a statement. "Now it's up to DaimlerChrysler to move the company forward, by using the skill and dedication of our members to deliver quality vehicles that customers want to buy."

The offers come as Chrysler tries to reduce production by 400,000 vehicles per year.

All U.S. production workers will get the offers, including those at a plant scheduled for closure in Newark, Del.

Of the production job cuts, 9,000 are in the U.S. and 2,000 are in Canada. All the cuts will take place during the next three years. Chrysler's 10,060 Canadian workers were given separate offers earlier this month.

The company document said that each U.S. facility would have different timing for workers to take the packages, but the timing for plants slated to lose production this year will be between April and December. Further cuts scheduled for 2008 and 2009 will be done in similar fashion.

To be eligible for early retirement, workers must have 30 years with the company or be at least 60 years old and have at least 10 years of service, or be at least 55 years old and their age and years of company service must total 85 or more. A worker also could be at least 65 and have at least one year of pension credit to be eligible, according to the document.

Chrysler, part of Germany-based DaimlerChrysler AG, said Feb. 14 that that 11 U.S. plants would be affected by the downsizing.

The Delaware plant would closed during the next two years, and Chrysler also plans to cut shifts at plants in Warren, Mich., and St. Louis.

Other plants that will see job losses include a machining plant in Toledo, Ohio; a Detroit axle plant; the Mack Avenue Engine Plant I in Detroit; an engine factory in Trenton; stamping plants in Sterling Heights, Warren and Twinsburg, Ohio; and the Indiana Transmission Plant I in Kokomo.

The company also announced that a parts distribution center near Cleveland will close this year.

The targeted factories generally make components for slow-selling trucks and sport utility vehicles, the company said.

In addition to the cuts at those facilities, Chrysler plans to eliminate 3,000 hourly jobs due to expected productivity gains at yet-to-be identified plants, said spokesman David Elshoff.

In all, 4,725 hourly posts will be eliminated this year, with the remaining 4,275 in 2008 and 2009, Elshoff said. "


Sorry all you UAW fans, it seems that the Union is not on the side of the worker any more.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Sure they are. They are trying to preserve what little they can. If they rejected this, it would be just a matter of time before every Daimler-related plant in the country closed up shop and moved to Mexico.

The UAW no longer has the juice to threaten much of anything, really. A strike would certainly mean the company packs up and moves.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Sorry to all this. Thanks Greg for the Info


Drive safe
Dave Mayfield
20 years of Driving
13 years as an O/O in Expediting.
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
You have to give D/C credit for trying . They invested a lot in the Mercedes plant in AL . The workers there didn't appreciate making $35 an hour in what was formerly a poverty stricken part of the country so they decided to unionize . D/C retaliated by eliminating thousands of jobs . Freightliners will no longer be built in Portland , Ore . A new plant in Mexico will build Freightliners and Sterlings . Look for Sprinter to drop the Dodge name and go back to Freightliner . D/C introduced a Sterling Bullet midsize produced in the Mexican factory that produces the new Dodge 4500 and 5500 . To me this is an indication that when D/C sells Chrysler the truck line will not be included . Dodge trucks wil no longer exist . Sterling will produce diesels , maybe 1 ton but not gasser pickups . D/C did not stop producing the transmissions formerly made at Kokomo . They are now being produced by Chery in China . Yes Chrysler is lost . If GM buys Chrysler I expect Dodge and Chrysler to last as long as Javelin and Matador lasted when Chrysler bought AMC .
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Turtle's comment "They are now being produced by Chery in China" relates to a vehicle that will be marketed here.

Just to remind everyone that Chrysler is a foreign car company that has 0% loyaty to the US.

$100K for a buyout? they should get what I got - 6 months wages without overtime and a year of healthcare, D-C should not give them 6 months because some of them will just be sobering up in 6 months. A year is fair.
 

driver628

Seasoned Expediter
"Diamler is not going to play the uaw games here in detroit like the big (or used to be big) 3. There not going to waste the time dealing with the uaw who have no leg to stand on anymore. Its a take it and have a job for a litle while longer maybe, or leave it see you later deal." This is what I was told about the issue.
 

unorthodoxneon

Expert Expediter
Well most of chrylers problem has to do with the great managment of Daimler. Chrylser has been pulling the weight of daimler for awhile. Hell if it wasnt for chrysler at first daimler would be in bad shape. The germans killed chryco as fast as they could. They produced more cars then they needed to make chrysler look bad. Kinda wierd to say that there is toomany cars when during the summer they were offering OT and such to produce more vehicles... Dont add up. Say what you want but chrysler can do far better on their own without the "support" that Daimler. Daimler is just making chrylser look good for the sale. They are going to then buy up ford (or maybe even GM) and then run them into the ground as quick as they can. Man Walter P Chrysler is rolling in his grave.


Also i happen to like the look of the sebring and once the vert comes out for it i'll be in line to buy one. Right after i buy my Challenger. Lets see a Honda/Toyota/Nissan keep up with it :)
 

MSinger

Expert Expediter
I like the new Sebring as well, it kind of resembles one of the newer Mercedes models. We have a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica and it is the nicest vehicle we have ever owned. The AWD was awesome in the snow the past few weeks.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
unorthodoxneon “Chrylser has been pulling the weight of daimler for awhile. Hell if it wasnt for chrysler at first daimler would be in bad shape.â€

Not to be insulting in any way shape or form, but are you ******** kidding me?

I can not explain this any other way but Chrysler was used to expand the Daimler – Benz line so to have a solid North American base – this was from Lutz himself. The rape of the monetary funds that Chrysler built up since paying off the loans when Iacocca was in charge was a secondary problem for the stock holders but it did helped offset the loses they had from acquiring other companies in building the empire.

But lately with the downturn of the NA market and being number five in a field of 10 or so, Chrysler to the parent company has been a problem and has not pulled it's own weight by their standards.

Mercedes is their flag ship product line, from the A type to the unimog to their heavy truck line (not to mention the military vehicle market that they have) and has always had good sales, has always made a very good profit and has a very loyal customer base. The product line has a better following with the rest of the world than Chrysler will ever have. Until the 1990’s there were very few Chrysler products offered in the rest of the world with that brand, so I would venture to guess that outside of the poor showing in Europe and Asia, the NA market is important to D-C until they sell off the company and shift thier attention to competing with the rest of the car companies - not internal competition within the company.

I wish they would not sell it but spin it off, but I know why they don’t want to do this – because of Delphi and the mess that that has caused.

The problem with Chrysler is that they have been trying to capture a market (18 to 24) with retro models like Challenger, Charger and other products that are nothing but re-skinned sedan platforms via the Mercedes business model (very poorly done I might add, a four door charger – give me a break). The aspen and other SUV/Cross over vehicles suffer from the same ‘copy the competition because we have no imagination’ problem as the other American car companies (even though D-C is a foreign car company) – many look like Mercedes or Land Rovers by the way. The jeep model line really looks like poor hummer clone with the latest bloated miscarriage a very poor excuse to put on the market (again with the four doors on a jeep CJ platform – come on D-C).

But this is not just a Chrysler problem, Ford has nothing unique as they did with the Taurus and Sable (something that they really need since the Focus has been deemed old school) and GM has been spiraling downward with their designs and a long inception to market problems.

Just a bit of history, WPC was the turn around king. He started with Buick and moved to Willys and than onto Maxwell to straighten them all up, pretty much doing what Cord did with Auburn and Willys did with Overland in 1907. He had the car planned for production under his own name when he was at Willys but assets had to be sold and Durant bought the design of the car which turned out to be the Flint. I think that they do need another WPC to get the company together, but does anyone really care enough to take a chance?
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
the new sebring is all mb under the skin what is it a c230 or c240?

the crossfire is just a 230 compressor with new body work and not selling well by the way.

the 300 is an mb under the skin with a hemi or an mb 6.

basically if it ain't a truck or minivan it is an mb. wait....the suv like caliber which is sold in europe with a diesel is a chryco car. it replaced the neon and is built in belvidere il. it appears they have given the low cost car over to the imports. the charger is prolly an mb under the skin also and so will the challenger if not hemi equipped. i got a friend that knows i will ask him.

my guess is dodge would have been a truck div and chrysler tha car div if they were to continue.


vw has been building jettas and bugs in mexico for some time so why not chrysler also?

too bad there is anti trust. could all three get together(sof luck right?) and build cars to specific segments of the market under one name?






Jack Berry
 

Mudflap

Expert Expediter
Bottom line- absolutely no sympathy from me. Don't get me wrong, I am all about fair pay for a job. But, here I have gone through 30 years of trucking netting about $30-35k a year as an O/O without anything amounting to a raise in pay during that time. Throughout much of that time I did trucking for big 3 auto makers. The ones who got the pay raises during my time were the UAW people. Let's see, to the tune of making $25-30 an hour or more to run impact wrenches on an assembly line. In my time I never met a UAW person who was worth a quarter of the annual pay they brought home. And now they can get $100k to sock away in the bank to just walk away from their overpaid jobs? (Keeping in mind many of these UAW employees are family nepotists, that being both husband and wife employed will get $100k EACH!) Time for a made in USA reality check. -Mudflap-

Almost forgot: If you are one of the "lucky" big 3 UAW workers who get to relocate to another assembly plant from one being closed, does anyone care to tell me how much money you get to relocate? Another one of their little known secrets worth about two times the cost of the last new GM car you bought.
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Not defending Granholm, but you would rather have that beady-eyed, shifty SOB Engler back? What do you think he would do for Chrysler workers?

Jobs will continue to hemorrhage in the US, as unions long since gave up any struggle to defend anything other than their fat salaries. All of them who have helped companies shed jobs, get nice cushy jobs with the company. I think they should go up in front of troops...
 
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