Child support claim rankles sperm donor to lesbian couple

[cheri1122]

There is no such thing as same-sex parents. For every child, there is one father and one mother.

Maybe in your head, Pollyanna, but in real life, not true. There are gazillions of kids with only one parent, and a lot who have no clue who the missing parent [usually the dad] is, and many who think they know, but were lied to for whatever reason.
There are also plenty of kids with two parents of the same sex, and if you took the time to educate yourself, you might be surprised to find that they are as happy and well adjusted as any other kid.
Welcome to this century.

 

[aristotle]

Maybe in your head, Pollyanna, but in real life, not true. There are gazillions of kids with only one parent, and a lot who have no clue who the missing parent [usually the dad] is, and many who think they know, but were lied to for whatever reason.
There are also plenty of kids with two parents of the same sex, and if you took the time to educate yourself, you might be surprised to find that they are as happy and well adjusted as any other kid.
Welcome to this century.

Every child is the product of one male and one female. These are known, respectively, as a father and a mother. To pretend otherwise is silly. No person has two mothers or two fathers. It is a biological impossibility. This ultra-liberal madness has to end somewhere. The man who donated sperm is the father, the woman who provided the egg is the mother. Cheri, you know this is a biological fact.

 

[cheri1122]

"Studies" don't agree...?? What studies? Where's the proof of your assertion?



Lots of references to check out. Including the ones that refute the Regnerus study cited by you. I figured someone would find it, but it's been 'debunked' already.

New Study On Homosexual Parents Tops All Previous Research

It doesn't take superior intelligence to recognize the social and psychological disadvantages that come into play for a boy being raised by two lesbians.

So by your reasoning, a child raided in a female household is socially and psychologically disadvantaged? That hasn't been shown to be true, and the only difference is that a child raised by gay parents is told by misinformed peers that it's 'wrong'. Like they tell each other about where babies come from - and get it wrong.

The deterioration of the traditional family will be recognized by historians as one of the critical factors that contributed to the decline of our country.

No argument that the traditional family is the best way to raise children - provided both parents are well adjusted and committed to good parenting. That leaves a lot of traditional families out, though, and you ought to know that.
Our country would best be served by acknowledging reality, instead of trying to force everyone into a mold that many don't fit, and blaming them for their lack of conformity to ideals that are unrealistic and [obviously] unworkable.
a child who is wanted and loved and raised by a parent or two parents dedicated to his welfare is a blessed child, even if both those parents are male or female.
A child who was an unwelcome surprise, raised by two lazy and ignorant parents is a problem waiting to inflict damage on the rest of us.
I'd like to see more of the first kind, and less of the second.

 

[cheri1122]

It depends on the situation.

First it was a blanket statement - now you equivocate. Typical.

From STRICTLY a survival of the species stand point only those who can, without help, conceive. The more random the better. The more man interferes the greater the chance of weakening the species. Weaken it too far and it will fail. Modern medicine is a multi-edged sword, capable of great wonders and the able to destroy the species at the same time.

I am ONLY speaking of survival of the species. Nature has "chosen" these two to be evolutionary dead ends. Why? I don't know.

Nope. The mother was impregnated with sperm, same as every other pregnant woman. She chose to introduce it via a turkey baster, but nevertheless, it ended up in the same place as it would have in the usual fashion, and with the same result.
That is not an evolutionary dead end.
And as for man 'interfering' in natural selection, technology can strengthen the species - that depends on how it's applied. You recall the reaction when Hitler tried it - people didn't like the idea very much.

 

[AMonger]

When you involve yourself with sexual deviants, you should expect problems like this. He deserves what he's getting.

 

[layoutshooter]

Nope. The mother was impregnated with sperm, same as every other pregnant woman. She chose to introduce it via a turkey baster, but nevertheless, it ended up in the same place as it would have in the usual fashion, and with the same result.
That is not an evolutionary dead end.
And as for man 'interfering' in natural selection, technology can strengthen the species - that depends on how it's applied. You recall the reaction when Hitler tried it - people didn't like the idea very much.

No, you are wrong. The woman that was impregnated with a 'turkey baster, was not the same as every other pregnant woman. She, somewhere on her genetic code, is carrying a recessive gene that does not does not further the survival of the species, which by it's nature is a dead end.


I contend that mankind, mainly do to technology is becoming weaker as a species. I was not speaking of the extremes that Hitler went too, although, we are not all that much different here than his ideas. As to whether or not the German people liked it or not, I can't speak. I was not there and it was not anything that I ever studied.

 

[BobWolf]

So, dose this guy at least get his fifty bucks now?

Bob Wolf.

 

[Pilgrim]

KANSAS CITY, Kansas (Reuters) - A Kansas man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple so they could have a child said on Wednesday he is shocked the state is now trying to make him pay child support.

William Marotta, 46, donated sperm to Jennifer Schreiner and Angela Bauer under a written agreement that he would not be considered the father of the child nor liable for child support. A daughter, now 3, was born to Schreiner.

But in October, the state of Kansas filed a petition seeking to have Marotta declared the father of the child and financially responsible for her after the couple encountered money difficulties.

Marotta will ask the court in a hearing January 8 to dismiss the claim, which centers on a state law that the sperm must be donated through a licensed physician in order for the father to be free of any later financial obligations. Marotta gave a container of semen to the couple, who found him on Craigslist, instead of donating through a doctor or clinic...

FWIW, here's an AP story that gives a little more information and with a slightly different angle.
Kansas wants sperm donor pay child support

After reviewing the OP and the post from Turtle a 2d time, this situation looks even more absurd. As usual, the gay/lesbian/transgender/bisexual community seems to make demands for whatever legal and social accommodations that appeal to them at the moment. In this case a lesbian couple wants the same rights as traditional married parents, but without the responsibilities. Their love affair comes to an end, so the mother turns to the child's actual father for support since neither she nor her former "partner" can support themselves, let alone a child. Wonder what the chances are for this poor kid to grow up to be a mentally screwed up teenager and adult? Notice how this situation provides a perfect example of homosexual social dysfunction as described in the Regnerus study mentioned in my previous post.

Here's an idea: maybe the biological father and his wife should go to court and counter-sue for custody of the child so she might have a chance to grow up in a normal household. Give the biological mother visitation rights so she can continue that relationship. Maybe the father and the court should make the child's welfare their primary consideration instead of going overboard to placate the G/L/T community.

 

[aristotle]

This fiction of "same-sex" parents illustrates the absurdity liberals would have everyone believe is normal. The sperm-donor will most likely be found financially responsible for the child he helped create. This is as it should be. However, I would balk at sending the child to live with donor-dad simply because it is anything but normal activity for a man to pimp his sperm to a lesbian couple. The entire sorry episode is mental depravity.

Moreover, one of the ladies is believed to have lied to Kansas child welfare officials by denying she knew who the father/sperm-donor happened to be.

Mother lied about knowing sperm donor, agency says in demanding donor pay | Fox News

 

[layoutshooter]

The sperm donor is not the "father". Father only becomes a noun when he lives that 'verb' part of word. This dude is strictly a donor.

 

[aristotle]

The sperm donor is not the "father". Father only becomes a noun when he lives that 'verb' part of word. This dude is strictly a donor.

So who is the baby daddy?

 

[layoutshooter]

So who is the baby daddy?

That poor kid has not a daddy, just a few cells dumped into a turkey baster. This kid is likely doomed. A "DADDY" would have been there, to raise the kid. So would a "MOTHER". The 'verb' part of those words are EARNED, not an automatic title bestowed on one for a biological act.

The dude donated some sperm, nothing more. It sounds like the two broads were not any better.

 

[Pilgrim]

This fiction of "same-sex" parents illustrates the absurdity liberals would have everyone believe is normal. The sperm-donor will most likely be found financially responsible for the child he helped create. This is as it should be. However, I would balk at sending the child to live with donor-dad simply because it is anything but normal activity for a man to pimp his sperm to a lesbian couple. The entire sorry episode is mental depravity.

Moreover, one of the ladies is believed to have lied to Kansas child welfare officials by denying she knew who the father/sperm-donor happened to be.

Mother lied about knowing sperm donor, agency says in demanding donor pay | Fox News

Agreed - the whole sordid mess is an example of today's "if it feels good, do it" society and its moral relativism. But considering the lesser of the two evils, the sperm donor being married and having a foster child sounds like he's better prepared to offer the child a somewhat normal family with a father, step-mother and sibling as opposed to an indigent lesbian who appears to be mentally unstable.

 

[layoutshooter]

It does not sound like he was prepared to offer anything. It seems he wanted nothing to with the child other than a fantasy and a turkey baster. He did not offer to do anything other than fight it. Forcing him to accept responsibility will likely cause more problems than it will solve. It is only a "law" that requires basters to be of a certain registration that is causing this guy to have his life turned upside down.

 

[aristotle]

Donor-dad's really cool idea is going to put him on the hook for $$hundred of thousands$$ until his child reaches 18 years of age. Certainly, his wife at home is thrilled as well.

 

[layoutshooter]

Nothing will make this right and lives are ruined.

 

[Pilgrim]

Exactly - except the lives of the parents were probably in the cr*pper already and the unfortunate 3 yr-old is has virtually no hope for a decent future. I realize it's unrealistic, but some people should not be allowed to reproduce.

 

[layoutshooter]

This poor kid has no parents, never did. The kid had a sperm donor and a couple idiots looking for a pet. All three should be shot and the kid put up for adoption, there are plenty of people looking for younger children.

I am really get sick of so called adults. SO many these days are just down right disgusting.

The kid is the loser, no matter how it turns out. The rest belong in jail.

 

[Humble2drive]

After reviewing the OP and the post from Turtle a 2d time, this situation looks even more absurd.

Looks like you need to review the stories for a 3rd time.

As usual, the gay/lesbian/transgender/bisexual community seems to make demands for whatever legal and social accommodations that appeal to them at the moment.

The lesbian mother was applying for entitlements like many heterosexual mothers do.

In this case a lesbian couple wants the same rights as traditional married parents, but without the responsibilities. Their love affair comes to an end, so the mother turns to the child's actual father for support since neither she nor her former "partner" can support themselves, let alone a child.

No. The mother did not turn to the father. The State demanded the name of the father as they do in all cases and made the decision to go after the father.

When you re-read the article for a 3rd time, take off your gay haters cap and try to read the facts.

Here's an idea: maybe the biological father and his wife should go to court and counter-sue for custody of the child so she might have a chance to grow up in a normal household.

Good idea; however, a guy who whacks into a bottle and then gives it to a stranger from Craigslist may be a little too whacky to be a "normal" father.

 

[layoutshooter]

"The lesbian mother was applying for entitlements like many heterosexual mothers do."


Far too many are applying for "entitlements" Homo or hetero. They are not really ENTITLED to that money, they did not earn it. When they decide to take on the ADULT responsibility of children they SHOULD live up to it. I don't give a flip which way they put on their pants.

The entire mess is a result of three people(?) who did not have the best interest of a child in mind, two of whom were looking for a glorified pet, one of which never even showed an interest, decided to bring a child into the world.

They all should be shot.