Chardon High School, near Cleveland Oh, SHOOTING

skyraider

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Just in, Fox News, shots fired, 4 people injured or killed, not sure yet.It just happened, this AM.
 

layoutshooter

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WHAT? A 'teenager' doing bad things? We have to feel sorry for the scum that did this.

What is wrong with people today? This is SICK stuff.
 

Monty

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Maybe not a student .... don't be so quick place blame ....

CHARDON, Ohio - A gunman opened fire inside a high school's cafeteria at the start of the school day Monday, wounding five students, officials said. A suspect was in custody.
FBI agent Scott Wilson said there was one suspected shooter. He wouldn't discuss the extent of the students' injuries. The Geauga County Sheriff's Office told CBS News that the suspect turned himself in after being chased out of the school by a teacher.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57385711/suspect-in-custody-in-ohio-high-school-shooting/

But I've been wrong before ..... :rolleyes:


Students quoted by multiple television stations said the shooter is a fellow student. One told a WKYC-TV 3 reporter that the shooter was a student who "had gotten into trouble a lot at school."

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_20053627
 

UncleTed

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One dead so far. This is sickening. Should we ban the guns? I don't think so but I do believe it is time for metal detectors at the front doors of schools.
 
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xiggi

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Yea lets add detectors for something that happens every few years. Stupid people will do stupid things regardless of things like detectors. Someone could shoot people in the parking lot, at a football game etc.
 

chefdennis

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its those dang guns...they do more damage then anything...guns are the problem.....as far as metal detectors, this happened in the Cleveland area, chances are pretty good they all ready have them in place....but as Xiggi said, what happens when a gun shoots someone in the parking lot or at a outdoor event on school grounds....blame the ones responsable, the guns, don't add more laws, enforce a few of the too many already in place...
 

UncleTed

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Yea lets add detectors for something that happens every few years. Stupid people will do stupid things regardless of things like detectors. Someone could shoot people in the parking lot, at a football game etc.

Yeah...it only happens every few years. No big deal, right? Are you that naive? Yes, they could shoot them at a football game, parking lot, etc. The problem is they don't! They walk into school with guns and shoot students in the cafeteria or the library, etc. The bottom line is if they can't get the gun into the school they can't shoot somebody. It's time for drastic measures.
 

xiggi

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Yeah...it only happens every few years. No big deal, right? Are you that naive? Yes, they could shoot them at a football game, parking lot, etc. The problem is they don't! They walk into school with guns and shoot students in the cafeteria or the library, etc. The bottom line is if they can't get the gun into the school they can't shoot somebody. It's time for drastic measures.

If they can't get then gun into the school they can't shoot someone? I guess the gun won't work if it's not inside the school.
 

chefdennis

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Uncle Ted wrote:

Yes, they could shoot them at a football game, parking lot, etc. The problem is they don't!

Ahhhh you might google "high school student shot at football game" and also "high school student shot in school parking lot"...you will find hundreds of responces....

Simple fact is that id a person want to shot of kill someone inside a building where there is a metal detector in place, they will find a wayto do it...look at the shooting in court rooms..it happens even with metal detectors in place...i am not saying the metal detectors in some schools are a bad idea, but the blanket approach that and a law that mandates their installation is over the top....
 

LDB

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There will be all sorts of calls for gun bans of course. The knee jerk response of liberals and the ignorant. Those who bother to think will realize such measures only affect the law abiding, those who are not and will not be the problem. The solution is to allow select teachers and faculty as well as select citizens to carry concealed firearms on campus under strict guidelines of qualifications and carry method. The same goes for colleges and universities. Will it mean there will never be another incident? Probably not. Will it mean far fewer incidents and a quicker ending if and when incidents occur? Absolutely.
 
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UncleTed

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Ahhhh you might google "high school student shot at football game" and also "high school student shot in school parking lot"...you will find hundreds of responces....

Apples and Oranges. I think you know what I mean

Simple fact is that id a person want to shot of kill someone inside a building where there is a metal detector in place, they will find a wayto do it...look at the shooting in court rooms..it happens even with metal detectors in place...i am not saying the metal detectors in some schools are a bad idea, but the blanket approach that and a law that mandates their installation is over the top....

If you have ever passed through the doors of a federal courthouse or even the post office in Laredo ( they have the them there too) You know metal detectors are quite effective. As long as we have parents who do not police their children, we must do what we must do.
 

chefdennis

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Apples and oranges my azz..you said those shooting don't happen when in fact thaey happen a a # close to those of indoor shooting at schools...do the research...

2nd yes metal detectors work, so do "attack dogs" on gang member..do you purpose we have attack dogs at school doors also ???

As i said, people that are "h8ll bent" on shooting or killing someone are going to find away to do even in the presents of a metal defector at the door.
 

UncleTed

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Apples and oranges my azz..you said those shooting don't happen when in fact thaey happen a a # close to those of indoor shooting at schools...do the research...

2nd yes metal detectors work, so do "attack dogs" on gang member..do you purpose we have attack dogs at school doors also ???

As i said, people that are "h8ll bent" on shooting or killing someone are going to find away to do even in the presents of a metal defector at the door.

Dude....you need a load.
 

AMonger

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Yeah...it only happens every few years. No big deal, right? Are you that naive? Yes, they could shoot them at a football game, parking lot, etc. The problem is they don't! They walk into school with guns and shoot students in the cafeteria or the library, etc. The bottom line is if they can't get the gun into the school they can't shoot somebody. It's time for drastic measures.

Keep your drastic measures away from my rights.

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cheri1122

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its those dang guns...they do more damage then anything...guns are the problem.....as far as metal detectors, this happened in the Cleveland area, chances are pretty good they all ready have them in place....

It happened in Chardon, a fairly affluent suburb - seriously doubt they have even considered metal detectors in their schools.

but as Xiggi said, what happens when a gun shoots someone in the parking lot or at a outdoor event on school grounds....blame the ones responsable, the guns, don't add more laws, enforce a few of the too many already in place...

It'll take a long time to reverse the aggressive attitude that's prevalent everywhere you look today, but maybe in the meantime, the media should stop treating this kind of thing as a major world class event, making some teens with a grudge decide to be 'famous' too.
 

AMonger

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[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]but as Xiggi said, what happens when a gun shoots someone in the parking lot or at a outdoor event on school grounds....

No gun has ever shot anyone, anywhere, anytime.

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