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I had a driver calling me for a while. He called me one day when I was on my way to Seville telling me how he wasn't getting anything. When I got to Seville I looked and he had been offered 8 loads and turned down 8 loads, most of which were good loads I'd have taken.
You have to remember that at any given time between 25-40% of the fleet is either out of service for vacation, repair etc. or can't run for being out of hours so there are nowhere near as many units available as you may think.
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You have to remember that at any given time between 25-40% of the fleet is either out of service for vacation, repair etc. or can't run for being out of hours so there are nowhere near as many units available as you may think.
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arkjarhead
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If you keep talking there will be more trucks at e-1 than that. Everyone will start running over there. You need to throw on your poker face man. Like this. I'm going to the bank:'( . Then you don't have to worry about it. LOL Just pickin at ya a lil.
If you keep talking there will be more trucks at e-1 than that. Everyone will start running over there. You need to throw on your poker face man. Like this. I'm going to the bank:'( . Then you don't have to worry about it. LOL Just pickin at ya a lil.
Ark...Think I'll change my name to wildcard or sometin like that..Some think of me as wild and loose..
Theres a saying that every good memory a man has it pops a hair out of his head...so if ya meet a happy ole bald guy...thats me!!
Theres a saying that every good memory a man has it pops a hair out of his head...so if ya meet a happy ole bald guy...thats me!!
I've never bashed any carrier i haven't been with...How can anyone do that without walking a mile in thier shoes?
One observation I've made about P2 drivers is the ones that seem more aggressive and speak up and not take the crap seem to last longer, heck they've been there 5-6 yrs or more and they work the system. The more docile and quiet spoken don't seem to last.
One observation I've made about P2 drivers is the ones that seem more aggressive and speak up and not take the crap seem to last longer, heck they've been there 5-6 yrs or more and they work the system. The more docile and quiet spoken don't seem to last.
thats your fault.......if you only drove 200 miles in 10 days i would have already a long time ago say 8 days ago would have moved out of that area 10 days 200 miles you should be smart enough to know to get the heck out of that area.
If a man speaks on the beach where no woman can hear is he still wrong?
If a man speaks on the beach where no woman can hear is he still wrong?
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Don't worry I did and I have more empty miles on my truck now 
you can't look at just how many empty miles you drove.if you drove 200 miles God forbid but it got you in an area where you are better positioned to get a load without sitting as long to wait for one then you are better off then sitting 10 days with only 200 paid miles behind you.
If a man speaks on the beach where no woman can hear is he still wrong?
If a man speaks on the beach where no woman can hear is he still wrong?
hondaking38
Veteran Expediter
remus two of my panther buddies live in the detroit area, they dead head to bucyrus to get out of that area...normally i wouldnt tell people, where to reposition too, but when i deliver around detroit, i am outta there faster then the silver bullet, not much good comes out of there except canada runs for panther..and at 25.00 dollars for border crossing there about the lowest paid runs of all expeditor runs,by all companys...after deer season which starts november 15th in michigan, this cat is looking for a new litterbox to call home..its been about 6 months since expediting has been really profitable for me...working for panther that is..
Jefferson3000
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Are they really more docile and quiet, or do they just end up complaining and being aggressive to the wrong people? For example, on here or to the other sitters at the truck stop..... Great point.
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[em]"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." --Mark Twain[/em]
Are they really more docile and quiet, or do they just end up complaining and being aggressive to the wrong people? For example, on here or to the other sitters at the truck stop..... Great point.
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Jeff
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[em]"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." --Mark Twain[/em]
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Give me a break ok...I'm in Detroit at home from friday..you want me to DH now when in Bucyrus are 20 vans available?..the point here is they have 20 loads every day out from Detroit area...I was 14 friday and now I'm 3rd out and is monday night..I'm not crazy enough to go to Bucyrus
Hondaking..it is my understanding and I maybe wrong but Panther doesn't pay extra for a Sprinter???
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no they don't
I don't understand that??? The cost of a sprinter and maintainence for .77 cents????
They can charge a C load rate and only pay ...what??? you guys are getting ripped!
PS...and don't give me that line of garbage that ya make it up in volume...whats lost is lost...
They can charge a C load rate and only pay ...what??? you guys are getting ripped!
PS...and don't give me that line of garbage that ya make it up in volume...whats lost is lost...
To be classified as a C unit a truck has to be dock high, have 14' of floor space and scale 5k. Sprinters, as good as they are, fall short on all three scales. Should they be another category in between? I personally think so even though I don't run any of them. I think they should be a 90-95cpm vehicle when they are carrying more than a stock E350 can carry, meaning height/weight/number (if it can carry 3 skids) and height/weight if only 2. In other words, any time it has 3 skids, even if they are 50 pounds each, it's 90-95 since a van can't do it and it's either the Sprinter or a true C unit. I'm not sure how much more weight they can carry than an E350 so that may not come into play much. When they carry anything over 48" high that should also be the higher rate regardless of weight because again it can't go in a regular van. My .02 on the subject.
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dhalltoyo
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Carriers (Bean Counters In Particular) will not buy into that reasoning. Why?
First, they consider the operational cost of a Sprinter to be lower due to a higher MPG average; therefore, in their way of thinking, it is an immediate financial benefit for the Sprinter O/O.
Second, they believe the Sprinter O/O will pick up a few extra loads over the conventional 48"H regular cargo van and that in itself is a financial benefit enough.
Third, only one out of 60-75 loads is ever three skids according to the shippers and Sprinter O/O's I have spoken with.
Finally, they don't have to pay an increased rate if they don't want to.
PS. I recently spent some time on the phone with a Sprinter O/O who was previously with a carrier who offered an incentive for Sprinter loads. Over the course of 12 months saw ran 6 loads that paid the incentive rate of $1.00/mile. 90% of her loads were not even at the carrier's advertised cargo van rate. They were a reduced "Major Account Rate" at 70 cents/mile. She switched to a carrier that paid her 75 cents/mile, increased FSC's, other deadhead paid miles and regular freight availibility. She told me just this evening that her income has almost doubled.
For her, she needs the nice sleeper, TV, desk, and microwave because she is a woman and does not like to stay in truck stops. Being a man, I am not subject to the vulgar cat calls and being hit on at truck stops, so the $47,000 price tag for a Sprinter of that type is too much for my budget. It works for her and I was glad to direct her in the correct path to increase her earnings.
First, they consider the operational cost of a Sprinter to be lower due to a higher MPG average; therefore, in their way of thinking, it is an immediate financial benefit for the Sprinter O/O.
Second, they believe the Sprinter O/O will pick up a few extra loads over the conventional 48"H regular cargo van and that in itself is a financial benefit enough.
Third, only one out of 60-75 loads is ever three skids according to the shippers and Sprinter O/O's I have spoken with.
Finally, they don't have to pay an increased rate if they don't want to.
PS. I recently spent some time on the phone with a Sprinter O/O who was previously with a carrier who offered an incentive for Sprinter loads. Over the course of 12 months saw ran 6 loads that paid the incentive rate of $1.00/mile. 90% of her loads were not even at the carrier's advertised cargo van rate. They were a reduced "Major Account Rate" at 70 cents/mile. She switched to a carrier that paid her 75 cents/mile, increased FSC's, other deadhead paid miles and regular freight availibility. She told me just this evening that her income has almost doubled.
For her, she needs the nice sleeper, TV, desk, and microwave because she is a woman and does not like to stay in truck stops. Being a man, I am not subject to the vulgar cat calls and being hit on at truck stops, so the $47,000 price tag for a Sprinter of that type is too much for my budget. It works for her and I was glad to direct her in the correct path to increase her earnings.
This thread was posted to discuss the observation of one person that Panther bashing due to lack of freight may have been inappropriate because many carriers' trucks are sitting idle. Following post topics have meandered from QC cost to vulgarisms to Sprinter costs and capacities; the thread is becoming unwieldly so I'm locking it down so we may continue the comments in separate threads.