Carrier cutting rates

Tennesseahawk · Mar 16, 2013

Steady Eddie said:
This year March has 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays. This happens once every 823 years

That is great. I have to wait another 823 years to have more pay days and week ends- to - well, get paid more for less?

Methinks you're pulling our legs.

sthfl2000 · Mar 16, 2013

Here's what i think is going on...a shift in business models. Instead of saying we're getting out of the CV business or the ST business...they're simply resetting rates and/or reducing miles in an effort to effect the model change they want. I've been seeing this with a few carriers so far this year. I think June will be the tell-tale month to recognize which carriers want which type of business moving forward in 2013. If what they have done so far doesn't make the results sought...i would expect more rate cuts and/or fewer miles until their goals are met.

Steady Eddie · Mar 17, 2013

Tennesseahawk said:
Methinks you're pulling our legs.

Dang- you got me. In 823 years I'll be dead and gone some 800 years.

aquitted · Mar 17, 2013

zorry said:
I know I've seen it in the last week. Probably TA, maybe at the J in Beaverdam.
I'd be surprised if someone doesn't post a location by midnight.
You could have one by the start of business Monday,LOL.

Larry that t-shirt is at the J in beaverdam Let me know if I need to pick it up and mail it to ya.

Tennesseahawk · Mar 17, 2013

Steady Eddie said:
Dang- you got me. In 823 years I'll be dead and gone some 800 years.

No, I'm saying that ANY March with the 1st day starting on Friday will have 5 of each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Are you saying there will only be one Friday, March 1st every 823 years? I'm thinking more like every 7, not counting for leap days. Sounds like another internet "Wow! I didn't know that!" crap statistic to me.

Tennesseahawk · Mar 17, 2013

aquitted said:
Larry that t-shirt is at the J in beaverdam Let me know if I need to pick it up and mail it to ya.

I appreciate it, but I plan on being out there soon enough. I'll get me a truckload. LOL

bubblehead · Mar 17, 2013

Tennesseahawk said:
No, I'm saying that ANY March with the 1st day starting on Friday will have 5 of each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Are you saying there will only be one Friday, March 1st every 823 years? I'm thinking more like every 7, not counting for leap days. Sounds like another internet "Wow! I didn't know that!" crap statistic to me.

This link: Why 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays don?t occur every 823 years

westmicher · Mar 17, 2013

sthfl2000 said:
Here's what i think is going on...a shift in business models. Instead of saying we're getting out of the CV business or the ST business...they're simply resetting rates and/or reducing miles in an effort to effect the model change they want.

I agree completely. Express-1 used to focus on teams as well. No more. It's a tractor trailer company now.

davekc · Mar 17, 2013

westmicher said:
I agree completely. Express-1 used to focus on teams as well. No more. It's a tractor trailer company now.

I don't believe I have ever seen a E-1 tractor trailer.

zorry · Mar 17, 2013

E-1 T-T quite often 120-132" ARI Sleepers.
They even run ads with a monstrous T660/ Big Bunk.
And that 09 Cascadia, 130 (?) Bolt,white,red,and blk is at E-1. Large fleet owner.

MissKat · Mar 17, 2013

Saw a cascadia pulling E1 trailer today in Asheville

MissKat · Mar 17, 2013

But not the big one Zorry mentioned. I actually bought the tv system out of that one at Bolt back in the Jordan Transport days with FedEx

westmicher · Mar 17, 2013

davekc said:
I don't believe I have ever seen a E-1 tractor trailer.

There are a dozen in Laredo everyday. The new owner comes from a 18 wheeler background.

Steady Eddie · Mar 17, 2013

Just did a Mac19 down there.

C/V= 0
Sprinters= 3
S/T= 0
T/T= 1

zorry · Mar 17, 2013

There used to be a dozen down there. Now they're out getting MORE MILES .

Steady Eddie · Mar 17, 2013

zorry said:
There used to be a dozen down there. Now they're out getting MORE MILES .

Running more miles = they come and go.

I can see it now. When things pick up and the daily load count start to increase, They will sit back and say, "I knew we did the right thing when we cut the rates !"

Daily load increase happens every year. It's when those Daily load counts go down during the slow times, they want to cut the rates and think that will increase the Daily load count.

Did I say anything about the Daily load count. That and that along is what they want. Nevermind that a lot of those Daily load counts are below 300. Could be why they added the .5 and deadhead so we can run more under 300 increasing the Daily load count.

davekc · Mar 17, 2013

Yep....it is all about the miles. Don't worry whether you are making anything, it is all about being the "team player".

OntarioVanMan · Mar 17, 2013

Those tractors are probably running Bounce Loads

Steady Eddie · Mar 18, 2013

OntarioVanMan said:
Those tractors are probably running Bounce Loads

Now I don't want to make things up or anything....

I had a load offer, and I ask who the customer was, I was told Bounce our sister company. Sure I'll take it. We didn't get the load. So, that got me thinking, did Bounce go with a lower rate carrier? lol

westmicher · Mar 18, 2013

Steady Eddie said:
I had a load offer, and I ask who the customer was, I was told Bounce our sister company. Sure I'll take it. We didn't get the load. So, that got me thinking, did Bounce go with a lower rate carrier? lol

Yes. Of course.
I've seen sprinter loads in Laredo go to other carriers because they would run it cheaper. I was told the international group was a separate profit center and they focus on return, although there are certain customers that they will NOT sell their loads, to protect those preferred customers from exposure to other carriers.