letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
I don't give a flying Fat rat's *** what the reason was. For you to post something like that here, even if true is absolutely unreasonable.
I am not way out on this one. I will find it and pm it to you.
Canada's Healthcare System At Work...
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I don't give a flying Fat rat's *** what the reason was. For you to post something like that here, even if true is absolutely unreasonable.
I am not way out on this one. I will find it and pm it to you.
Defending my sons life is un-reasonable? Please explain that. I am glad you were not MY dad!! I suppose it was racist too!! And anti government (it was that) and paraniod (the DR. said I was right) And anti-Obama? (this happened in England 32 years ago)
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letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
Whether or not you were defending your son's life in this case is debatable. Threatening someone with homicide is definitely unreasonable.
EagleXpress
Expert Expediter
The more politically correct we are forced to be the more we are controlled............I say " COWBOY UP !! " Good for you Layoutshooter.......after all your son was on the verge of death....sometimes in extreme situations you have to take the " bull " by the horns !
The DR AGREED with my actions, he said the nurse was WAY out of line and that my son very well could have died without proper care. He would NOT have gotten that care had I not taken action. I was NOT going to take the chance with his life. I don't know IF you have ever had to defend a life, I HAVE, more than once. It is SELDOM accomplished by singing Kubia!! When the guy at one dance we were working came at me from behind I am GLAD my dad busted a chair over his head and not sat and tried to talk it away. I saw her actions as a direct threat to my sons life and acted accordingly, I would do it again in a heart beat.
I did answer you PM and you are welcome to post it AND my answer if you see fit. I don't mind.
I did answer you PM and you are welcome to post it AND my answer if you see fit. I don't mind.
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
I don't believe for one second the Dr. agreed with your actions. Those "actions" would be called felonious assault in the U.S.
Good for you Layout! Family Comes First and Foremost! There is No One who will stand in my way when it comes to my Family whether it be Man, Woman or Beast! You Did the Right Thing!
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
letz wrote:
If i am not mistaken, layout stated he was in the UK........
And as has been said Joe, congrats on doing what had to be done to get the attention your child needed.....
If i am not mistaken, layout stated he was in the UK........
And as has been said Joe, congrats on doing what had to be done to get the attention your child needed.....
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witness23
Veteran Expediter
I'd hate to see what you might do to the teenage girl behind the counter that didn't get your kids McNuggets order straight.
How does that nurses action or non-action have to do anything at all about govt. healthcare, you got an unreasonable person and I'm glad your son got the treatment he needed but what does that have to do with a govt. run healthcare? You can't take one persons action and say it is because of the govt. My mother just passed away from cancer and there were nurses at Hospice that would give her drugs that made her incoherant because, "they want her to be comfortable". There were also nurses that wouldn't medicate her because it was unnecessary. My point is, you are dealing with individuals and some do not see things the same way you do. I did not fault the whole nursing staff because of a few nursed that did not see things the way I did. I handled it in a dignified way without physical harm.
To be honest I am very surprised you would actually lay a hand on a woman, what a despicable act on your part. I am sorry, there is just not a good reason to touch a woman. I can't believe for one second that there wouldn't have been a better way to have taken care of this situation. Was there not anyone else that you could've spoke to? I am afraid this speaks volumes on the type of person that you are.
How does that nurses action or non-action have to do anything at all about govt. healthcare, you got an unreasonable person and I'm glad your son got the treatment he needed but what does that have to do with a govt. run healthcare? You can't take one persons action and say it is because of the govt. My mother just passed away from cancer and there were nurses at Hospice that would give her drugs that made her incoherant because, "they want her to be comfortable". There were also nurses that wouldn't medicate her because it was unnecessary. My point is, you are dealing with individuals and some do not see things the same way you do. I did not fault the whole nursing staff because of a few nursed that did not see things the way I did. I handled it in a dignified way without physical harm.
To be honest I am very surprised you would actually lay a hand on a woman, what a despicable act on your part. I am sorry, there is just not a good reason to touch a woman. I can't believe for one second that there wouldn't have been a better way to have taken care of this situation. Was there not anyone else that you could've spoke to? I am afraid this speaks volumes on the type of person that you are.
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Witness wrote:
You are absolutely right. It sure does speak volumes to his person....
Again congrats Joe on doing what you felt you had to do to get the attention your child needed at the time....
As for questoining "How does that nurses action or non-action have to do anything at all about govt. healthcare", the nurse was a "product" of the government run system.....
You are absolutely right. It sure does speak volumes to his person....
Again congrats Joe on doing what you felt you had to do to get the attention your child needed at the time....
As for questoining "How does that nurses action or non-action have to do anything at all about govt. healthcare", the nurse was a "product" of the government run system.....
greg334
Veteran Expediter
but what does that have to do with a govt. run healthcare?
Because it is the way the system is administered over there and it is the only way they can reduce costs in a similar system. The nurses will make a lot of the decisions on care following the guidelines that are set, not just the doctors.
What you may experience will not be the case. As mention this is about money, there is only so much of it and they, the administrators have to make all of it work with what they got.
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Because it is the way the system is administered over there and it is the only way they can reduce costs in a similar system. The nurses will make a lot of the decisions on care following the guidelines that are set, not just the doctors.
What you may experience will not be the case. As mention this is about money, there is only so much of it and they, the administrators have to make all of it work with what they got.
The other stuff n/c
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
It speaks directly to his character as a man, not to mention the fact that two wrongs do not make a right. The man CLAIMS he threatened homicide against this woman. He claims a lot of things so it is hard to know what is real and what is not. Let's say for a minute that his claim that his kid's life was truly in danger...This gives him the right to threaten someone else's life to SAVE a life? If you really and truly believe that, you are both unbalanced, egomaniacal, dispicable human beings.
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chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
letz, you have any kids??
witness23
Veteran Expediter
The fact that a few of you on here have championed layout's behavior also speaks volumes of the mentality and unstableness that a few of you demonstrate here in the forums. Threatening a woman, admitting to telling outright lies(and being proud of it), repeating the same rhetoric, etc, etc, but I'm sure that you would agree that, "The end justifies the means". The more and more I read the more and more I become aware that a few of you here are not gentleman, possess integrity, honorable, Christians, etc, etc that so many on here claim to be.
and you should meet us in person...*LOL*
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Sorry guys, I am not supporting or defending anyone, I wasn't there to see what happened or why and refuse to pass judgment on the situation.
However my point is simple, the people who you think are not in control are the ones' who sometimes make life and death decisions based on numbers. These do include nurses.
I'm still trying to figure out what christian has anything to do with it, some of the most violent outburst I and my wife has seen were from patient's family were from the bible toting judgemental preachy people.
However my point is simple, the people who you think are not in control are the ones' who sometimes make life and death decisions based on numbers. These do include nurses.
I'm still trying to figure out what christian has anything to do with it, some of the most violent outburst I and my wife has seen were from patient's family were from the bible toting judgemental preachy people.
witness23
Veteran Expediter
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Sorry guys, I am not supporting or defending anyone, I wasn't there to see what happened or why and refuse to pass judgment on the situation.
Uhmmm......nobody said you were supporting or defending anyone, I wasn't refering to you Greg but since you thought it was important enough for you to comment on my post I must conclude, you either have a high regard for yourself and think everything is about you or you have a guilty conscience by coming to the aid of fellow brethren. Misery does love company.
Sorry guys, I am not supporting or defending anyone, I wasn't there to see what happened or why and refuse to pass judgment on the situation.
Uhmmm......nobody said you were supporting or defending anyone, I wasn't refering to you Greg but since you thought it was important enough for you to comment on my post I must conclude, you either have a high regard for yourself and think everything is about you or you have a guilty conscience by coming to the aid of fellow brethren. Misery does love company.