raceman
Veteran Expediter
RE: can a moderator tell me why my post was sudden
I want to say one more thing on this since I did say I wanted moderation not yanking of the POST. What has gone on here is what I do think is helpful. Moderators moderating and even saying it is time to quit. That is fair and I thank those who are taking that approach. I can not go without just a bit of input it is eating me up. Let me start by saying I do not know Gambler and I don not know Tom. I have called Tom and at this point I have forgotten why but I did. He and I appreciated what the other did and disagreed on a couple of things and then let it go. That is all I know of Tom. I am not bashing Tom but I Very much understand the start of this thread by Gambler. From my standpoint Tom made this public when he asked for infromation a few POSTs ago. I asked that whatever info came about be public instead of secret. It was pointed out to me that was not a great idea and I did not need the information for much anyway so I apoligized for even asking the question but I will admit I found it upsetting that a company, in this case Tom, was requesting all of or any of us to give him info yet not all of us or many of us would ever see it unless each of us asked for the same info which seems silly. I agree that when anyone makes statements publicly but will not back them up publicly it is just not right. If we are all going to share in the info why cant we all share in the results. That is were my beef is and I let it go. Gambler is making a good point if people will calm down and read or listen. Unfortunately this business has a person attached to it here, Tom. When people do this to Fed Ex or Panther or LandStar or whoever, there is no face or no one person attached and in this case there is. Most of us will most likely never know if Tom is doing well or not and to be honest, the kind of person I am hopes he is doing well. From a business standpoint I could care less. I am very happy where I am and since Tom does not take on O/O it makes no difference to me anyway. I am not selling my trucks to go drive there. I wish him only the best of luck.Here is where I think Gambler at least had a good point and folks could have learned from the answer. I think if we are goin to open this up it should be open for all. If Tom can say all the good things about his company then Fed Ex and all the others should be on here doing the same thing but they are not. I wonder if they did and where questioned like was here, would they answer with facts. I know what I think the answer is to that but will not say for fear of being misread. I think this went way to far but I clearly see how come it did. If any company is going to come on and publicly ask for info from us all, talk about how great it is to be with them should they not have to back that up? Maybe I am wrong and I am not reading the initial questions right or I am just such an idiot that I am missing where the start of this was a problem. I already said that I disagree with it getting out of hand but the very first message did not offend or bother me and I actually set back and was waiting to see the answer and then BOOM! I am all for Tom's ideas on here in the past and agree with much of his advice etc. I just think that if these questions would have been directed at a faceless Panther or Fed Ex or LandStar no one would have blown a gasket and I bet many folks would have said "Yeh FX what about that" "Yeh come on answer that LandStar" How about Tom being treated just like them and just keep those kinds of thing out of the post and maybe put the business questions out some other way and the actual promotion of his business in ad form like the others. Somethingf like that just so that the 'Business Tom" and the person and "expediter Tom" are separated. Tom has every right to ask for good service information, give advice when folks ask questions etc. but when it comes to "Tom the business" is it possible there is another way so it is more the way the the companies do it? I am only asking and looking for other ways to handle this kind of thing in the future.
---I will not be hugging or sitting on anything this time---
raceman
I want to say one more thing on this since I did say I wanted moderation not yanking of the POST. What has gone on here is what I do think is helpful. Moderators moderating and even saying it is time to quit. That is fair and I thank those who are taking that approach. I can not go without just a bit of input it is eating me up. Let me start by saying I do not know Gambler and I don not know Tom. I have called Tom and at this point I have forgotten why but I did. He and I appreciated what the other did and disagreed on a couple of things and then let it go. That is all I know of Tom. I am not bashing Tom but I Very much understand the start of this thread by Gambler. From my standpoint Tom made this public when he asked for infromation a few POSTs ago. I asked that whatever info came about be public instead of secret. It was pointed out to me that was not a great idea and I did not need the information for much anyway so I apoligized for even asking the question but I will admit I found it upsetting that a company, in this case Tom, was requesting all of or any of us to give him info yet not all of us or many of us would ever see it unless each of us asked for the same info which seems silly. I agree that when anyone makes statements publicly but will not back them up publicly it is just not right. If we are all going to share in the info why cant we all share in the results. That is were my beef is and I let it go. Gambler is making a good point if people will calm down and read or listen. Unfortunately this business has a person attached to it here, Tom. When people do this to Fed Ex or Panther or LandStar or whoever, there is no face or no one person attached and in this case there is. Most of us will most likely never know if Tom is doing well or not and to be honest, the kind of person I am hopes he is doing well. From a business standpoint I could care less. I am very happy where I am and since Tom does not take on O/O it makes no difference to me anyway. I am not selling my trucks to go drive there. I wish him only the best of luck.Here is where I think Gambler at least had a good point and folks could have learned from the answer. I think if we are goin to open this up it should be open for all. If Tom can say all the good things about his company then Fed Ex and all the others should be on here doing the same thing but they are not. I wonder if they did and where questioned like was here, would they answer with facts. I know what I think the answer is to that but will not say for fear of being misread. I think this went way to far but I clearly see how come it did. If any company is going to come on and publicly ask for info from us all, talk about how great it is to be with them should they not have to back that up? Maybe I am wrong and I am not reading the initial questions right or I am just such an idiot that I am missing where the start of this was a problem. I already said that I disagree with it getting out of hand but the very first message did not offend or bother me and I actually set back and was waiting to see the answer and then BOOM! I am all for Tom's ideas on here in the past and agree with much of his advice etc. I just think that if these questions would have been directed at a faceless Panther or Fed Ex or LandStar no one would have blown a gasket and I bet many folks would have said "Yeh FX what about that" "Yeh come on answer that LandStar" How about Tom being treated just like them and just keep those kinds of thing out of the post and maybe put the business questions out some other way and the actual promotion of his business in ad form like the others. Somethingf like that just so that the 'Business Tom" and the person and "expediter Tom" are separated. Tom has every right to ask for good service information, give advice when folks ask questions etc. but when it comes to "Tom the business" is it possible there is another way so it is more the way the the companies do it? I am only asking and looking for other ways to handle this kind of thing in the future.
---I will not be hugging or sitting on anything this time---
raceman
Censorship is not needed as bad threads will always end with someone saying give it a rest.