Call for Fox News to drop Glenn Beck

EnglishLady

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Guardian

Ten thousand sign petition for rightwing talkshow host to be removed amid accusations that he has whipped up hatred in the wake of the Arizona shooting

A protest was staged against rightwing talkshow host Glenn Beck today, calling for his immediate removal from Fox News.

The organisers, Jewish Funds for Justice (JFSJ), a charity that campaigns for social change, delivered a petition with 10,000 signatures.

In the wake of the Tucson shooting, the TV and radio personality has had to defend his record against accusations that he has whipped up hatred within the public discourse.

For a media figure who has been variously lambasted as a liar, buffoon, clown, bigot and racist Beck is no stranger to the vitriol that currently passes in America as public debate. In fact, he's built a multimillion dollar empire out of it.

So the protest rally that was staged outside the News Corporation headquarters in New York today probably troubled him as much as water flowing off a duck's back.

The petition was part of a groundswell of opinion that when it comes to Beck, arguably the most extreme of America's multitude of rightwing talk hosts, enough is now enough.

Amid the billowing criticism, Beck has defended himself by claiming he has "softened" the tone of his monologues over the past couple of years. "Nobody wants to recognise this. Why? Because it hurts their dialogue."

But the evidence belies his claim of moderation. The JFSJ accompanied the petition with a list of 10 of Beck's most egregious comments in 2010 (see below).

They include Beck's radio comment on the financier and philanthropist, George Soros, that "here's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps". The remark was made in reference to Soros as a 13-year-old teenager in Hungary, who survived the Holocaust because his father hid their Jewish identity through elaborate forged documents.

The comment was made as part of a three-part Beck "exposé" of Soros on Fox News last November called the "Puppet Master". Beck's portrayal of Soros was so mendacious and malicious that he was accused by the New Yorker of broadcasting tropes that corresponded "uncannily to those of classical antisemitism". The Daily Beast noted that "nothing like it has ever been on American television before".

Simon Greer, JFSJ's president, said that following last Saturday's Tucson shootings, in which a Congresswoman was shot and six people died, it was time for action. "We are not accusing Glenn Beck or Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch of pulling the trigger in Tucson, only one man did that. But we are accusing them of playing to the worst in all of us."

He said that over the past 18 months Beck had referred to Hitler and Nazi Germany more than 400 times in his show.

There is no love lost between Soros and the Fox News stable. A month after the Puppet Master was aired, Soros hit back that the combination of Fox News, Beck and the Tea Party movement was a threat to America that might lead "this open society to be on the verge of some dictatorial democracy".

The billionaire has donated $1m to the liberal media research body, Media Matters. The organisation's founder, David Brock, this week wrote to Murdoch calling on him to do something about Beck and Sarah Palin, who also appears on Fox News.

"In the wake of the [Arizona] killings, your network must make a stand," Brock wrote. "You have the power to order them to stop using violent rhetoric. If they fail to do so, it is incumbent on you to fire them or be responsible for the climate they create."


Glenn Beck soundbites
• Beck likens himself to Israeli Nazi hunters: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." 20 January 2010

• Social justice is a "perversion of the Gospel, not what Jesus was saying". 11 March 2010

• "Charles Darwin is the father of the Holocaust." 20 August 2010

• "We have been sold a lie … that the poor in America are suffering." November 20 2010

• Beck mocks President Obama's daughter Malia and questions her "level of education". He later apologises. 28 May 2010

• Uncle Sam is a "child molester" who is "raping our wallets … and destroying our families". 16 April 2010

• Beck said the prime goal of his coverage of the midterm elections was to "make George Soros cry" which was hard to do as Soros "saw people into gas chambers". 2 November 2010

• "Women are psychos". 20 January 2010

• Putting the "common good" first is the kind of thing that "leads to death camps". 28 May 2010

• "God will wash this nation with blood if he has to." 25 August 2010

(As selected by the Jewish Funds For Justice)
 

layoutshooter

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I wonder if any of them ever heard of a document known as "The Bill of Rights"? Ever hear of the the First Amendment to the Constitution?
 

aristotle

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Aren't The Telegraph and The Guardian ultra leftwing newspapers with a long history of bashing American conservatism?
 

Tennesseahawk

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Aren't The Telegraph and The Guardian ultra leftwing newspapers with a long history of bashing American conservatism?

...or America in general.

"For a media figure who has been variously lambasted as a liar, buffoon, clown, bigot and racist Beck is no stranger to the vitriol that currently passes in America as public debate."

I've seen what passes in the UK as public debate, and it ain't purdy. The guardian should stick to rioting soccer fans.
 

layoutshooter

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I apologise, I will refrain from using either of these sources in the future.

No need for that. Feel free to use what ever source you choose. Just because they might get "picked" on is no reason not to use them. They give an interesting perspective. They are what they are.
 

xiggi

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As normal much of what they are saying is being used out of context. My guess is out of 10,000 signatures about 9900 of the never listed to a full Beck show.
 

Brisco

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As normal much of what they are saying is being used out of context. My guess is out of 10,000 signatures about 9900 of the never listed to a full Beck show.

.....and 9200 of those 9900 who have never listened to the Glenn Beck show are just 10 different people who signed the list 920 times each. You know, the same way Democrats vote during the elections.
 

layoutshooter

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.....and 9200 of those 9900 who have never listened to the Glenn Beck show are just 10 different people who signed the list 920 times each. You know, the same way Democrats vote during the elections.

Wonder how many that PAID to sign this? Just like the left likes to use "paid" protesters.
 

Tennesseahawk

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I apologise, I will refrain from using either of these sources in the future.

Please keep using them. As LOS mentioned, it gives a different, albeit very liberal view of our politics. Don't quit using them on my account... or anyone elses', for that matter.
 

greg334

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Actually, the petition sits on the site they own, so they scan a phone book from 1954, do some fancy OCR stuff to it so it becomes data and then they use a fancy algorithm that picks random numbers for which they use to pull the names out of the data. Once that is done, the new file with those picked names are uploaded onto the server and then magically imported into the database - 10,000 names signing the petition within an hour, amazing marketing.
 

davekc

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I would say it is BS. The first news outfit to run something like that would be MSNBC and not a word over there about anything Glenn Beck that would be current.
 

letzrockexpress

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I apologise, I will refrain from using either of these sources in the future.

EnglishLady, PLEASE DO NOT let these thug bullies shout you down. They have a long history of trying to oppress those who oppose their point of view. Your posts are welcome here every bit as much as theirs are.
 

layoutshooter

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EnglishLady, PLEASE DO NOT let these thug bullies shout you down. They have a long history of trying to oppress those who oppose their point of view. Your posts are welcome here as theirs are.

Bullies? Shout her down? Seems like she was told NOT to stop posting. Who told her to stop? No one that I saw. I just read though all the post again, NO ONE EVER told her to stop posting. Where did you get that?
 

letzrockexpress

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Bullies? Shout her down? Seems like she was told NOT to stop posting. Who told her to stop? No one that I saw. I just read though all the post again, NO ONE EVER told her to stop posting. Where did you get that?

Yes, you told her not to stop. It isn't always about you...
 

EnglishLady

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I would say it is BS. The first news outfit to run something like that would be MSNBC and not a word over there about anything Glenn Beck that would be current.



I don't know if this will help ...

Ed Pilkington in New York guardian.co.uk, Thursday 13 January 2011 21.13 GMT
 

aristotle

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Context matters. For those unfamiliar with the British newspapers such as The Guardian and The Telegraph, it is important to understand they each have an ultra leftwing ideological bent. Both give a full embrace to socialism as practiced in Europe. Both routinely project what many here perceive as anti-America rhetoric. Of course these papers have an agenda, just as American newspapers do. That's all good and well. Yet, the US has no newspapers of national scope which compares to The Guardian or The Telegraph with respect to leftwing advocacy. Understanding this, it should come as no surprise these two papers choose to highlight stories which denigrate Fox News, or Sarah Palin, or the Tea Party,or American conservatives in general.

By all means, cite these sources or any source til the cows come home. Giving context was my intent.
 

layoutshooter

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Yes, you told her not to stop. It isn't always about you...


Never said it was about me. Tennesseahawk told her NOT to stop posting as well and NO ONE told her to stop. I don't know where you read that. No posts I saw in this thread asked, told or bullied her to stop posting.
 

EnglishLady

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EnglishLady, PLEASE DO NOT let these thug bullies shout you down. They have a long history of trying to oppress those who oppose their point of view. Your posts are welcome here every bit as much as theirs are.


I don't believe anyone said stop posting, I apologised because I didn't want my posts to seem one sided, especially if anyone thought I was "American bashing" :eek: - so i will throw in a few Independents aswell from now on & try and level the playing field ;)

Thank you for your post though :cool:
 
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