California want to force hotels to use fitted sheets

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
They will wear out a little sooner than the flat sheet, because the fitted sheets is the one that gets slept on all the time, but fitted sheets don't wear out at an alarmingly faster rate than flat sheets.

I'm no sheet expert but my experience with fitted sheets, at least the kind with the elastic is that while the sheet doesn't wear any faster than a flat sheet, the elastic gives out long before the cotton fabric wears out.

I also find using a fitted sheet requires each corner of the mattress to be lifted in order for the elastic band to catch and hold. Seems to me a flat sheet could just be pushed under the mattress with little or no lifting.

I would think California legislators would have some more pressing issues to deal with.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
Yes, I know. I used to do that quite often when I was staying in a motel every night, where I would rarely have housekeeping do anything in my room, knowing how hard they work as it is.

Yes, I know. Like I said, I'm intimately familiar with these machines.

Correct. One doesn't need to talk to every hotel owner, manager and employee to know what's going on in the hospitality industry. All you have to do is talk with enough of them, and be observant. It akin to the gas stations squawking about the insanely high price of having to convert their fuel pumps to dispense temperature compensated fuel, when the reality is that fuel pumps are routinely replaced anyway. They quote the cost of a new pump, as if they need to install a new pump where they would otherwise not do so, not accounting for the fact that all they have to do the next time the replace a pump would be to replace it with a temperature compensated pump, which costs very little above a non-compensated pump, and with some types of pumps there is no cost difference at all. Canada proved that without question. So the ridiculous numbers tossed out by the gas station owners, just like the ridiculous numbers tossed out by the hotel owners, are just that, ridiculous and not to be believed, especially when a little common sense and intelligence confirms just how ridiculous they are.

It's not yours, either. Unless you get a motel room.
I would belive hotel owners before any union, they can throw out ridiculous numbers too
 

jj214

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
I slit the sheet,
the sheet I slit,
and on the slitted sheet I sit (repeat 4 times)
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
I would belive hotel owners before any union, they can throw out ridiculous numbers too
Yeah, but you also believe this is another example of a government out of control, when it's clearly not. I think legislation for this is unnecessary, but hardly an out of control situation.


Moot: the elastic gives out long before the cotton fabric wears out, at least for most people in the home. Not necessarily true for a hotel/motel where the sheets are washed on the order of 300 times or more a year, the equivalent of several years of home use. In the home it varies, depending on how many sets of sheets one has and how often they get rotated onto the bed. If you only have one set and wash the sheets weekly and then put them right back on the bed, then the elastic will wear out from oxidation before the sheets do. But in a hotel or hospital situation the sheets generally become worn out, due to the multiple washings, long before the elastic wears out.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I believe it is the washing and even more so the drying that takes its toll on the elastic.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Good Gawd............

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Come On....doesn't California have other things to worry about???

I mean Hell, probably 80% of the Hotel Maids in California are Illegal Mexicans anyways, so why waste the time bowing down to their needs???

So if it were legal American citizens, your feeling would be different? Like putting a "brand image" ahead of a practice that causes unnecessary injuries would be worse if the people getting hurt mattered?
Really - who cares if some poor people suffer, as long as the corporations are happy with the way it is, right?
Wow. Why "waste the time" indeed.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Cheri,

I understand where you are coming from but this really is a non-issue for most of the country and especially those who are unemployed. I am all for easing the burden for those who work - invader or not, but I also know that many are not always exploited by the company for profit but their own kind for profit while even extending that to the very union that is supposed to protect them.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Cheri,

I understand where you are coming from but this really is a non-issue for most of the country and especially those who are unemployed.
So are the CSA and HOS, so what? If it doesn't affect me, I shouldn't care? It's an issue for those who are being injured, and I care about that. Like the Diva, I have carpal tunnel, and repetitive motion injuries bug the bejeebers out of me, especially when they can be avoided.

I am all for easing the burden for those who work - invader or not, but I also know that many are not always exploited by the company for profit but their own kind for profit while even extending that to the very union that is supposed to protect them.
Can we just try to deal with the identified and documented problems first? Please?
I think my head's gonna explode, soon.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
What "greedy corporations"? Will this bill not require every mom and pop motel to do this? How will affect THOSE poor working people? Even many chain motels are privately owned. They are NOT owned by that greedy corporation.

How much profit is bad? At what point do you make too much money on your truck and should have to give it away? What is wrong with profit? I am not greedy but I would be out of business in one day without profit.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
300 views means nothing because it counts you every time you or me or who ever comes to this thread so 300 does not indicate 300 different people
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
It is probably for some of the same reasoning MA and TN require trucks to have fitted sheets in the sleeper. It is just so they have one more law to go in and search through things without needing a warrant.

what?? has anyone been stopped and asked if their sheets are flat or fitted?

cotton or flannel?
plain or pattern?
120 thread ct or 600 thread ct?
 
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