Bush was right afterall

davekc

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I'm surprised they even printed that. The democrats still need Bush to blame for something before the mid term elections. Looks more like a late November story.
 

Unclebob

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I know this sounds like a broken record but YOUR WRONG AGAIN.

The Bush administration (Dick Cheney) claimed that there was an ongoing chemical weapons program developing and manufacturing chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

"The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West."

The weapons found were old stockpiles that had been manufactured prior to the first Gulf War.

These weapons were decades old and badly deteriorating presenting more of a threat to anyone handling them than to anyone they might have been aimed at. As our troops found out the hard way.

Cheney kept saying the smoking gun would be a mushroom cloud. I wonder what kind of mushrooms Cheney was tripping on.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 

layoutshooter

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I know this sounds like a broken record but YOUR WRONG AGAIN.

The Bush administration (Dick Cheney) claimed that there was an ongoing chemical weapons program developing and manufacturing chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

"The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West."

The weapons found were old stockpiles that had been manufactured prior to the first Gulf War.

These weapons were decades old and badly deteriorating presenting more of a threat to anyone handling them than to anyone they might have been aimed at. As our troops found out the hard way.

Cheney kept saying the smoking gun would be a mushroom cloud. I wonder what kind of mushrooms Cheney was tripping on.

I reject your reality and substitute my own!

except you keep forgetting that the 500 metric tons of yellowcake WERE found and removed.

My son, and nephew, WHO WERE THERE, tell a VASTLY different story about what was, or was not found. Care to questions THEIR reality? I know some OTHER guys, who are missing limbs, who tell a VASTLY different story, want to question THEIRS?
 

Unclebob

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Please supply your documentation for what you just claimed.
As for the people you know and what they might have told you I have no clue what they might have seen nor their qualifications for evaluating it.
The point still remains there was NO active program to develop WMD. That was Bush's rational for going to war.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 

cheri1122

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except you keep forgetting that the 500 metric tons of yellowcake WERE found and removed.

See the Snopes article cited by Turtle that addresses the yellowcake.

My son, and nephew, WHO WERE THERE, tell a VASTLY different story about what was, or was not found. Care to questions THEIR reality? I know some OTHER guys, who are missing limbs, who tell a VASTLY different story, want to question THEIRS?

Yes, I do.
By your logic, I [and millions of others] know the real truth behind the stories, because we're actually in the USA, and have even been to Washington DC. I've been half a dozen times, myself.
Yet, you question our reality all the time, lol.:rolleyes:
 

xiggi

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except you keep forgetting that the 500 metric tons of yellowcake WERE found and removed.

My son, and nephew, WHO WERE THERE, tell a VASTLY different story about what was, or was not found. Care to questions THEIR reality? I know some OTHER guys, who are missing limbs, who tell a VASTLY different story, want to question THEIRS?

Not only did bush believe they had a wmd program so did most leading politicians in both major parties. The belief had been going on fore years even before bush was elected.

Don't misinterpret and think I thought invading was a good idea but many people attempt to argue the wmd position beginning with false beliefs.
 
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Unclebob

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Not only did bush believe they had a wmd program so did most leading politicians in both major parties. The belief had been going on fore years even before bush was elected.

Don't misinterpret and think I thought invading was a good idea but many people attempt to argue the wmd position beginning with false beliefs.


Before we actually started the 2nd Gulf War I read multiple newspaper articles that quoted CIA sources that insisted there was no WMD program in Iraq.
These articles also said Cheney had to shop around to get analysts to support his views.
The politicians were too scared of being branded un-American to take a stand against Cheney.
Please keep in mind that the resolution Congress passed authorized Bush to go to war ONLY if all other options failed. UN inspectors were preparing to go back to Iraq. That wasn't good enough for the Bush administration (Lord Cheney).
As they say, the rest is history.
 

xiggi

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A politician shopping for reports that support their position, tell me it isn't so.
 

cheri1122

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Sometimes I wonder: if JFK's admonishment to "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" had continued to be our guiding spirit, how much better off we would all be today?
It was terrific advice on the true meaning of patriotism.
 
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skyraider

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Before we actually started the 2nd Gulf War I read multiple newspaper articles that quoted CIA sources that insisted there was no WMD program in Iraq.
These articles also said Cheney had to shop around to get analysts to support his views.
The politicians were too scared of being branded un-American to take a stand against Cheney.
Please keep in mind that the resolution Congress passed authorized Bush to go to war ONLY if all other options failed. UN inspectors were preparing to go back to Iraq. That wasn't good enough for the Bush administration (Lord Cheney).
As they say, the rest is history.

The Gulf War has been going on since the days of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, no one is happy over there......................imho.
 

iceroadtrucker

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except you keep forgetting that the 500 metric tons of yellowcake were found and removed.

My son, and nephew, who were there, tell a vastly different story about what was, or was not found. Care to questions their reality? I know some other guys, who are missing limbs, who tell a vastly different story, want to question theirs?

you da burn straight on that. But if some witch would have done their job vice wearing a skirt and worring about the yellow stain on their blouse there would no have been no dUM gulf war. No desert shield no storm and sadam would still be where he should have been and the bs that going on over now with the stinking issis which a new name for the taliban anyway wouldnt be. But we cant change history. All we can do is go forward. So to combat the issis / taliban we need an all out assult and do them in. Peroid. But our powers to be have PEE'D there pants like many suites that do. Enough said. If the powers to be had the mentality and the guts , but heck they cant even break bone let alone be expected to do whats right or make a decision like that. YES SADAM was a tyrant a butcher but he kept them in check and no one can deny that. Did I like him no but he kept them in Check didn't he.
 
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BobWolf

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I am not a war monger but the political correct way we are taking on wars is disgusting.

Trivia Question:
What actions effectively ended WW 2.
Japan WE VAPORIZED TWO CITIES. THEY SURRENDERED.
Europe WE CARPET BOMBED THEM DAY AND NIGHT
and finally, the Western Allied invasion of Germany THEY TO SURRENDERED.

I believe it was either General Sherman or Stonewall Jackson who said that the only way to bring a war to a quick end is with as much brutality and bloodshed as man can muster.
I might have it slightly misquoted but the point in there.

First thing we need to do is anyone with a camera should be labled an enemy combatant and taken out.
Then as General Sherman proved kill every enemy combatant that draws a breath, and destroy the enemies infrastructure, and military capabilities, in their path then maybe we wont have to revisit these mud holes.

Bob Wolf.
 

BobWolf

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you da burn straight on that. But if some witch would have done their job vice wearing a skirt and worring about the yellow stain on their blouse there would no have been no dum gulf war. No desert shield no storm and sadam would still be where he should have been and the bs that going on over now with the stinking issis which a new name for the taliban anyway wouldnt be. But we cant change history. All we can do is go forward. So to combat the issis / taliban we need an all out assult and do them in. Peroid. But our powers to be have pee'd there pants like many suites that do. Enough said. If the powers to be had the mentality and the guts , but heck they cant even break bone let alone be expected to do whats right or make a decision like that. Yes sadam was a tyrant a butcher but he kept them in check and no one can deny that. Did i like him no but he kept them in check didn't he.


damm strait!!!!!!
 

cheri1122

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Funny, how some believe 'might makes right', when they also believe they are the biggest, baddest asses on the planet.
But what if an enemy [or coalition of them] were able to carpet bomb, vaporize, or biologically decimate US?
 

iceroadtrucker

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Funny, how some believe 'might makes right', when they also believe they are the biggest, baddest asses on the planet.
But what if an enemy [or coalition of them] were able to carpet bomb, vaporize, or biologically decimate US?

Hero's where Dog Tags. Watching listening, Squished it will be. Have a nice day. http://blog.theveteranssite.com/a-f...l-recruitment-video/tribute&utm_term=20141013 http://navyseals.com/4592/navyseals-com-someone-special-udtseal-recruitment-video/
 
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