Bull Bar

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
I don't see a lot of cargo vans with bull guards and I wounder if its worth to buy one for my van.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Your fuel mileage would seriously suffer much more then paying for the damage a deer would cause over time.
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
It has some pros and cons,adds weight,fuel mileage suffers, and hitting a deer it will still mess up the front of your van,just not as bad the pros are it looks cool...ok make that the pro.
 

usafk9

Veteran Expediter
Your fuel mileage would seriously suffer much more then paying for the damage a deer would cause over time.

How about cow damage? We're at $18k and inching higher. Haven't stopped to think about how long it would take to be money ahead......
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
The OP asked about a CV, $18 grand in damage to a high mile CV, and chances are it is totalled....

As was said, fuel mileage will suffer, you will still have damage if you hit something big enough and while the added weight was mentioned, you will also see an increase in tire wear and shock replacement....I personally wouldn't put one on my van...
 

jelliott

Veteran Expediter
Motor Carrier Executive
US Army
If you don't see people running them, probably a good reason.
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
If you don't see people running them, probably a good reason.

Maybe more should! :eek:

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AMonger

Veteran Expediter
I'm no expert, but the guy I talked to that had one said the impact on fuel economy was negligible.
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
It's widely known, and manufacturers will tell you, that a bull bar will result in significant fuel economy impact, anywhere from 6-10% depending on where and how fast you drive. The physics of wind resistance combined with the added weight causes a dramatic increase in rolling resistance of the vehicle. If you get 20 MPG, that means at best you'll get 18.8 MPG with a bull bar. If you drive 80,000 miles a year, at $3.50 a gallon, that's $900 a year, plus the cost of the bull bar, and the increased pollution, all for the privilege of looking cool.

The biggest problem with most bull bar designs is that they bridge the "crumple zone" with a rigid structure, so the vehicle cannot crumple in the manner in which it was designed. The "crumple zone" is all but eliminated. This, of course, transfers the crash forces into the cabin of the vehicle and he driver, rather than the chassis. Even low speed collisions usually transfer the crash forces deeper into the vehicle structure, actually causing more damage than would occur without a bull bar. A bull bar can cost you $900 a year to run, and it'll usually double or triple repair costs if you hit a large animal.

Also, because a bull bar changes the crash characteristics, air bags are often rendered useless because they tend to fire too early or too late.
 

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
In this months Land Line magazine there is an add for what you refer to as a Bull Bar. The manufacture claims it will improve your fuel economy.
 
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