Building Your Business Plan Spreadsheet

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ATeam

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Retired Expediter
As FedEx Custom Critical adds flat-rate straight trucks to its fleet (vs. percentage-paid straight trucks), people are re-thinking the FDCC contractor opportunity. Some are kind enough to share details here in the Open Forum for the benefit of others.

This presents an opportunity to gather enough information to complete a real-world business planning spreadsheet that can serve as a resource and model for all expediters to use. The opportunity comes from FDCC's stated flat-rate compensation numbers, and from expediter's who are willing to share their real-world operating expense numbers.

If members can work this through together, item by item, to provide the details, I will develop a spreadsheet and prevail on Lawrence to post it somewhere on EO as a resource for all to use.

Jim Joerger (jjoerger) has been kind enough to share some of the flat rate details as he moves from the FDCC percentage contact to the flat-rate contract. I'll start with those.

To keep things on track, I propose that we begin with a team-driven, D-unit, dry box truck (no lift gate, pallet jack or WG equipment) in that particular program. The online spreadsheet will be developed such that other people's particular circumstances can be plugged into the spreadsheet once it is complete.

For example, Jim says he gets 10 mpg with his truck and expects to run 13,000 dispatched (paid) miles a month. Obviously, other people's trucks will have different results. The beauty of a spreadsheet is that such assumptions can be easily changed and the results will instantly cascade through the page to show the new bottom line.

I don't know if a cooperative project like this will work here in the Open Forum, but it is worth a shot, so let's give it a try, shall we?

As the originator of this thread, and to help facilitate its success, I hereby claim ownership of it and ask that participants follow my lead as we move from one spreadsheet topic to another. The spreadsheet I will be developing will be a monthly statement of profits and losses (P&L statement).

The major spreadsheet chunks are (1) revenue and (2) expenses.

The fundamental formula is: Revenue - Expenses = Profit or Loss. As you will see, it gets more detailed, but that is the core.

Let's start with the revenue.

We are told that a FDCC flat-rate straight truck is paid $1.00 per dispatched mile plus fuel surcharge. That creates the need for three spreadsheet lines.

1. Dispatched miles (13,000 to use Jim's example)
2. Mileage revenue ($1.00 per mile x line 1 in this case)
3. Fuel surcharge ($0.306 x line 1)

Please note the difference between dispatched miles and loaded miles. We are talking about a flat-rate program here in which dispatch will pay $1.00 a mile to move (deadhead) an empty truck from one place to another. Expediters are accustomed to talking about loaded and deadhead miles. Please be aware of the new term, "dispatched miles," and its meaning.

At FDCC, the fuel surcharge changes weekly, but since we are doing a monthly P&L statement, the driver will have to compute the average over the month and plug that number in. For spreadsheet construction purposes, I will simply use the most recent number as provided by Jim.

We are told that the FDCC straight truck flat rate program also pays 60 percent of accessorial revenue to the truck. Accessorials include things like pallet jack use, inside delivery, detention time and a host of others. These vary among carriers and trucks (depending on equipment) and should be detailed according to each driver's individual experience.

For simplicity sake, I'll add just one line to the spreadsheet called "Accessorials" in which all items are lumped together. That gives us:

REVENUE

1. Dispatched miles (13,000 to use Jim's example)
2. Mileage revenue ($1.00 per mile x line 1 in this case)
3. Fuel surcharge ($0.306 x line 1)
4. Accessorials (zero assumed in this case)

Jim tells us that tolls are also paid where applicable to flat-rate trucks for all dispatched miles (note "dispatched miles"). That creates the need for a fifth revenue line to give us:

REVENUE

1. Dispatched miles (13,000 to use Jim's example)
2. Mileage revenue ($1.00 per mile x line 1 in this case)
3. Fuel surcharge ($0.306 x line 1)
4. Accessorials (zero assumed in this case)
5. Toll money paid to the truck.

Total monthly revenue will be the sum of lines 2-5.

Lines 2-5 do not cover all possible revenue sources to a FDCC flat-rate truck. In the interests of simplicity, I am leaving out things like product rebates (like the $0.05 per gallon fuel rebate Pilot pays FDCC contractors) and fuel tax credits that occasionally appear on contractor settlements. A more detailed spreadsheet would include such things but that is beyond the scope of this project, at least for now.

My next step is to get with Lawrence to work out a place online where I can publish and develop this spreadsheet as we go.

To those who wish to assist in this project, your next step is to share your real-world expense information. Jim mentioned several expenses in earlier posts. Let's start with those. Can you tell me please, what are good numbers to use for the following expenses?

1. Work Accident Insurance
2. Qualcomm Fees
3. Bobtail Insurance

I'll also open the floor to those who wish to share additional expense categories and numbers. Remember that we are talking about a team-driven, dry box, D-unit that is presumed to run 13,000 dispatched (paid) miles a month (156,000 miles per year).

We will presume that fuel costs $4.00 a gallon and that the truck on our spreadsheet gets 9 mpg (the presumed FDCC straight-truck fleet average). These numbers can be easily changed in the spreadsheet, but we need a place to start so I'll start with these.
 
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nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
Phil,does anyone honestly think its to the best interest to switch to a flat rate system.If FDCC thought the owner would make more money in flat rate? would they be offering it.?
I don't think so.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
it probably is more profitable for the company. It also will help as they switch to less savy o/o's. Dispatching will be easier if it all pays the same. We won't be turning down loads hoping for a better rate. Take it and run. Move,Move,Move will be the new mantra. Volume over quality. Glorifed freight haulers,running so fast that you won't take time to think. Scary to me...I like what Phil is doing on different levels. 1st it will make some of us think numbers to a different level. Also,it'll make the future choice that I dread easier;if my % numbers are so bad, should I try the flat rate program, or go to the other % carrier I've been researching ?:eek:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Looks like someone is in panic mode.

Yes you can make money at a buck a mile with FSC. Many of us do when you adjust for fuel.

A while ago, I created a thread asking if the company would give you a flat rate and they kept you loaded but you had to go where they sent you without refusing the work - would you? The reason I asked this is because of this very program.

However, many who rethink their contract need to seriously look at their loaded rate opposed to their dh rate and see what the mean average is. I bet your revenue is less or just about the same. I doubt if anyone is getting $1.85 per mile all inclusive at FedEx with any consistency.

There are two trade offs that I can see, and if I'm wrong, please correct me.

1 - the standard DH compensation for layover choices and for dh to pick with the 50/100 mile unpaid limit is gone. This seems to equalize the reduction in revenue when compared to the percentage with the flat rate and the overall revenue that is derived by the percentage system. In other words ALL MILES means just that ALL MILES.

2 - outside the fact that many are not getting more than $1.45 loaded mile, it is a win for those who actually may see an increase in both the level of work and because of my first statement.

Overall, yes people can make money and it can be a good thing for many who have been getting the bullsh*t offers of 85 cents to a straight truck.

Now the downside of this is simply a change in business operations. You now have a fixed income to deal with and you may keep your truck rolling more often than not. The other downside is if FedEx keeps using the physiological dispatch system with this program, the advantages will dissipate quickly.

"Volume over quality"

Seriously?

What do you think FedEx is all about?

The thing I see FedEx may not offer this to the WG people but to only surface. I would think that if they would offer it to WG, it would be an option with a lot of perks to keep them happy.
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Trying to stay on track please,

What are good numbers to use for the following expenses?

1. Work Accident Insurance
2. Qualcomm Fees
3. Bobtail Insurance
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
What are good numbers to use for the following expenses?

1. Work Accident Insurance
2. Qualcomm Fees
3. Bobtail Insurance

One and two are easy if setting up for Fedex.

1. Line two x .02
2. $35 weekly

Number three depends on whether it's for a brand new $150k unit or a well used unit with a market value of $21k as well as who insures it.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
My bobtail insurance is $150
QC is $35 per week.
Work accident is .02 times gross.

I also budget $250 for a PM, $55 for truck wash (once on the road and we do it ourselves at home), and $500 for a maintenance fund.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Jim
I want to know if this system works for you. I really think that many are in a panic mode and trying to justify the move by FedEx to change with the times to service the customer, not the contractor.

What I mean is reading in the other thread the following;

"Here's an example. We are at home in Lake City, FL. We get dispatched on a run picking up in Orlando, FL 155 miles away. We deliver in Sequine, TX which is 1343 loaded miles. After delivery we are authorized to Dallas to layover for the next load, that's another 267 miles. Total miles would be 1765 and total pay would be $1765 + 539.38 for FSC (.3056 per mile) + tolls. For a total of $2304.38."

If this is representative of the actual revenue generated under this program, doesn't it seem that it would reduce your unpaid moves you make but allow you to actually offset the other costs by having a fixed rate?

For me, it removes the ambiguity that is a big problem for many FedEx contractors.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
Trying to stay on track but answering Greg's question.
Yes, for us we will have less unpaid DH miles. Instead of going where they offered as a layover option we used to go where we knew there was freight. Now we will go wherever they send us and they will move us to the freight.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Actually what I am asking is right on track with the tread's theme.

If one is to take say ten runs with their layover options and compare them to the same runs under the flat rate, building a scenario of sorts with the spread sheet, they may find that there is not really lot of losses they expect to see.

I've been through this exercise a few times, I operate on fix rates now, and it works well.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Greg can you tell us a little more on how your company does this and what your dh miles are? I would like to more about what you do and how you do it. I believe getting your figures into a plan like Phil's could be very beneficial.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
Trying to stay on track please,

What are good numbers to use for the following expenses?

1. Work Accident Insurance
2. Qualcomm Fees
3. Bobtail Insurance

Phil unless something has changed,wai when I as there was 2% of gross every week
Qc was 35 /week
Bobtail was .03% of value plus 35 per month
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
It will be interesting to see the comparisons. The big variables I see with this would be truck cost and what miles are being driven. At our carrier, they do offer a flat rate program. From what I know of it, the most successful it seems are the solos.

That may be a angle to look at as well because the solos deadhead and available hours could be a factor in several scenerios were they may benefit. The type of freight would be a big variable here is well.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Greg can you tell us a little more on how your company does this and what your dh miles are?

Comparably speaking, it doesn't have a dispatch system, it doesn't have much to do with rates. The rates are generated by the sale people (agents) who contact the truck directly and make the offer. If I don't like the price, then I tell them that. I have worked with agents who give a solid flat rate plus FSC to specific customers and they have consistent work which I feel is what everyone should strive for. It is by far a better system than what most have.

My deadhead is 100% but it is planned for a number of reasons.

I would like to more about what you do and how you do it. I believe getting your figures into a plan like Phil's could be very beneficial.

Well what do you want to know?

I haul freight for a dedicated customer and plan around that customer's revenue. It removes the ambiguity out of the equation and allows me to plan more efficiently without the worry of what the company thinks or demands.

My figures are simple, my weekly cost to the company - all inclusive is $92. My weekly maintenance cost is fixed at $150 a week which was reduced from $250 a week and fuel is planned at $4.50 a gallon, not market price.

Why don't you share your numbers?
 

Steady Eddie

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Trying to stay on track please,

What are good numbers to use for the following expenses?

1. Work Accident Insurance
2. Qualcomm Fees
3. Bobtail Insurance

Are these fixed cost? Always the same?
In my workbook, I have a spreadsheet that I use for "Stats". I input the above for the month and it spreads it into the correct spreadsheet. The spreadsheet for stats spreads it over the month up to 12 loads in the line item. Each month's spreadsheet rolls into one for "Total Year". My monthly spreadsheet shows % of each line item's total to revenue.

So the way my workbook is set up

Stats
Total Year
Each month

14 spreadsheets, The months and Total Year are all the same style, the year total has months going across instead of loads. Each month, Jan to Dec has loads going across up to 12, I insert more if needed. LOB, ( Lines of Business), go down. It could very easley be set up for fleet owners per unit, rolling in one "Total Year" spreadsheet. You would have one wookbook per unit linking to the Fleet Total Year.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Greg you seem to be quick to point out other's numbers and I have never seen you talk about your numbers which made me curious.

Thanks for sharing...
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
The responses are good and I am glad I did not go into this project with anything more than a general idea about how this spreadsheet will turn out.

Teams differ from solos. Expensive trucks differ from less expensive trucks. Carrier A differs from carrier B. Insurance vendor C differs from insurance vendor D. Etc.

The challenge is to create a one-size-fits-all spreadsheet that can be placed online and serve as a resource for all expediters. I know a way to do that but want first to complete the sheet for a FDCC flat rate, dry box, straight truck. So let's continue.

Since Jim continues to be kind enough to share his numbers for his truck, I'll continue to use them.

Here's what we now have:

REVENUE (Monthly)

1. Dispatched miles (13,000 to use Jim's example)
2. Mileage revenue ($1.00 per mile x line 1 in this case)
3. Fuel surcharge ($0.306 x line 1)
4. Accessorials (zero assumed in this case)
5. Toll money paid to the truck.

EXPENSES (Monthly)

1. Work Accident Insurance: $260 (13,000 x $0.02)
2. Qualcomm Fees: $152 ($35x52/12)
3. Bobtail Insurance: $150 (Jim's example)

Let's continue to compile expenses. I refer to the Joerger truck because info is available but we can use info from other sources too, especially when it comes to common truck expenses.

Jim offered that he budgets certain sums for truck PM and a maintenance fund. We are not preparing a budget here. We are preparing a profit and loss statement. I don't want to know what is budgeted. I want to know what is typically spent on expenses that all expediters have.

Can we list as many expenses (fixed and variable) as we can think of, and be as specific as possible?

Tires come to mind, as do wiper blades, oil changes (LOF) and chicken lights (chrome). Oh yeah, there is fuel and DEF fluid and windshield washer fluid. There are non-truck items like work gloves, hand cleaner, postage stamps, overnight mail and hotel expense.

That should get you started. Don't think forward on these. Think backward. What expenses did you have last month? What were the items and what were the costs?
 
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Steady Eddie

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
No need to micro manage everytime you put a stamp on mail. 1 line item for postage will cover all. My work book is my P&L, by month, viewing total year spreadsheet in the work book tells me how I'm doing YTD.
Revenue by LOB- includes Paid miles, rate for mile, deadhead pay, other.
Fixed cost- allowcated by run x 12 runs, with precentage of revenue. Each run has it's own P&L.
Var cost (Includes fuel cost), actual cost, tolls, showers, hotel, With precentage to revenue.
Repairs and Maint - including outside labor and parts, oil, filters. misc and other, with percentage to revenue.

Operating Income total with percentage to revenue.

My Workers Comp is not based on precentages of revenue, it is a monthly fixed cost.
All my line items are not listed, but, when I print the spreadsheet for current month, it is a full page. Showing each run's pro number, and date, then going down with revenue and all cost, ending with O/I
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Greg you seem to be quick to point out other's numbers and I have never seen you talk about your numbers which made me curious.

Well I don't know where you've been but I have disclosed my revenue a few times in the past.

It isn't like people can't find out what others make in this business as I found out from an EO member who knew my exact numbers and my loads and offers while I was running under my FedEx contract. He wasn't any more special than any other contractor and he is still there as a contractor - don't ask who it is because I won't say.

Just to add to this, Panther and a number of other companies run as a flat rate, so this exercise seems to be a bit silly.
 
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pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Great idea, and great start. I hope you can gather enough info to create a comprehensive spreadsheet in the end.
Someone mentioned one time about a feature within gmail or google, which allows sharing/view of a document with a password or something. I guess you wouldn't probably want everyone getting in there and adding and changing things, but perhaps a place to at least view it, unless of course the admins can come up with something here on EO.

Anyway, I just wondered if you might reconsider changing the 'dispatched' miles to break it down between 'loaded miles' and 'deadhead or other or whatever' miles. The reason being that it will make it easier to compare apples to apples. At least that is how i'm seeing it. For some, they receive deadhead 'pay' after a certain number of miles run, at perhaps a reduced rate... and for others, they may not receive any deadhead compensation at all. If it is broken down, these people would then be able to compare their own contract terms with the actual mileage numbers being portrayed in your spreadsheet to see if they would have fared better or worse. Just a suggestion.
 
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