Boycotting Red Cross

[LDB]

The Red Cross is giving first aid instructions to the Taliban. I will no longer be supporting the Red Cross and will boycott them in any way possible from this point forward until such time as they no longer give aid and comfort to animals.

Red Cross gives first aid lessons to Taliban | World news | The Guardian


Note for those who didn't bother to read the article to clearly identify what's going on in detail, this is the INTERNATIONAL Red Cross. I didn't consider it necessary to repeat all the details, presuming the article clearly spoke for itself.

 

[Poorboy]

I No Longer will support them either! Matter of fact, I am Going to Call them in the Morning and tell them how I feel about it too!

 

[greg334]

Sorry guys but you are BOTH clueless to what this really is all about.

This is the International Red Cross, not the American Red Cross.

The IRC has a charter that tells them they have to help out. If they don't then there are other issues with other organizations that fund them.

The American Red Cross has as much say into the matter as I do on how Mercedes designs their AMG models.

If you want to complain about something substantial, go to the UN and b*tch to them about how they are ignoring slavery and other issues in Mexico.

I will defend the ARC because I've worked with them and you may not know what they actually do behind the scenes in hospitals and blood banks. They provide serious disaster help, more so than the salvation army can BUT they are not the IRC, they are not in Afghanistan and they are not providing aid to our enemy unless you count liberals as the enemy.

 

[Turtle]

In 1978 I lost everything in an apartment building fire, 80 units, the entire building. It was pretty bad (Cincinnati-Dayton Road at I-75 in Pisgah, in West Chester). The American Red Cross provided me and the others each with cash and serious discounts at several furniture and department stores, to help us get back on our feet. I have donated both time and money to the American Red Cross ever since, and will continue to do so. The International Red Cross is a whole different thing.

 

[Rhodes101]

I guess there is no reason to get your facts straight before slandering a nobel charity which helps countless people.

 

[dieseldiva]

I lost my house in the F5 Xenia, OH tornado in 1974. The Red Cross was very helpful, more so to those without insurance or those who were under insured.

In the days following, as we were salvaging what we could from the rubble, they would drive down the streets offering food and drink. It was a little weird to hear "apple, chicken and noodles..........tetanus shot"!

 

[RLENT]

Sorry guys but you are BOTH clueless to what this really is all about.

...... and this is supposedly different from the normal state of affairs how, exactly ?

 

[Poorboy]

Sorry guys but you are BOTH clueless to what this really is all about.

This is the International Red Cross, not the American Red Cross.

The IRC has a charter that tells them they have to help out. If they don't then there are other issues with other organizations that fund them.

The American Red Cross has as much say into the matter as I do on how Mercedes designs their AMG models.

If you want to complain about something substantial, go to the UN and b*tch to them about how they are ignoring slavery and other issues in Mexico.

I will defend the ARC because I've worked with them and you may not know what they actually do behind the scenes in hospitals and blood banks. They provide serious disaster help, more so than the salvation army can BUT they are not the IRC, they are not in Afghanistan and they are not providing aid to our enemy unless you count liberals as the enemy.

I stand Corrected! Looks like I won't be Making that Phone Call this Morning!

 

[LDB]

I never said it was the American red cross and the article CLEARLY states who it is, for those who bothered to read it, but I guess some only want to cast stones.

 

[witness23]

This definition not only fits this thread to a "T" but it could also cover about 90% the threads started here by.......well we all know who they are.

half-c*cked - lacking mature consideration or enough preparation; ill-considered or ill-prepared; half-baked.

—Idiom
go off half-c*cked, to act or happen prematurely: He went off half-c*cked and told everyone the news. Also, go off at half ****.

 

[greg334]

I never said it was the American red cross and the article CLEARLY states who it is, for those who bothered to read it, but I guess some only want to cast stones.

Leo,

OK if you want to spin it that way, then why didn't you define which one you supported right from the getgo?

The appearance that you no longer support the Red Cross in any form came out in the OP, not saying the IRC or referring to the organization in the article.

I will no longer be supporting the Red Cross and will boycott them in any way possible from this point forward until such time as they no longer give aid and comfort to animals.

 

[witness23]

Leo,

OK if you want to spin it that way, then why didn't you define which one you supported right from the getgo?

The appearance that you no longer support the Red Cross in any form came out in the OP, not saying the IRC or referring to the organization in the article.

ahhhhhhh......the soothing sound of crickets.

 

[Turtle]

Clearly, in the past Leo has been a huge supporter of the International Red Cross, and he will no longer be doing so. It's the only way out.

But hey, it's an easy mistake to make, confusing the two. Most people probably think the International Red Cross is the primary group, and the individual National Red Cross organizations get their marking orders from them. Technically, the "International Red Cross" doesn't even exit. There's technically no such thing.

The "International Committee of the Red Cross" was founded in Geneva, Switzerland in 1863 with 25-member countries. Under international humanitarian law (from the Geneva Conference in 1863) they had a unique authority to protect the life and dignity of the the victims of international and internal armed conflicts. To further clarify their mission, the member states of the four Geneva Conventions in 1949, and the additional protocols of 1977 and 2005, give the ICRC an actual mandate to assist victims of international and internal armed conflict, including war wounded, prisoners, refugees, and non-combatants, and in times of peace to render aid during natural and other disasters.

The ICRC is a part of the "International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement" which was founded in 1919 which coordinates the 186 distinctly separate National Red Cross and National Red Crescent organizations. The key foundation of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent is that any and all humanitarian aid must be neutral.

The American Red Cross was founded in 1818 by Clara Barton, and has since been Congressionally chartered as a "Federally chartered instrumentality of the United States and a body corporate and politic in the District of Columbia."

The American Red cross is a part of the IRCRC Movement and will participate with aid for victims of war and other disasters, but only in a neutral fashion "in accordance with the spirit and conditions of: (A) the conference of Geneva of October, 1863; (B) the treaties of the Red Cross, or the treaties of Geneva, of August 22, 1864, July 27, 1929, and August 12, 1949, to which the United States of America has given its adhesion; and (C) any other treaty, convention, or protocol similar in purpose to which the United States of America has given or may give its adhesion;"

So while the American Red Cross is a member of the International Red Cross, it's not the same, and takes it's marching orders from it's Board of Directors, it's Congressional Charter, and does it all in accordance within the cooperation of the United States and its Armed Forces.

 

[RLENT]

I never said it was the American red cross and the article CLEARLY states who it is, for those who bothered to read it, but I guess some only want to cast stones.

Personally, I prefer to go with the occasional poke in the eye with a sharp stick ......

 

[layoutshooter]

I don't support much of what the IRC does. I support the ARC to a point. They are a good organization. They are not "perfect" by any means. They are what they are. They are a large, highly political organization. They do a lot of good work and do a lot of stupid things as well. In other words, they are just a group made up of people.

My biggest problem with the ARC (excluding my personal problems with them) is their continuing participation in the lowering of education standards in this country. They have lowered their standards on their first aid and CPR to levels that makes it no longer worth taking.

The first time I took a Red Cross first aid course it was an 80 hour class. The read cross first aid course is now 4 hours. You learn to call 911 and little more. CPR training is no different. what a shame. Mrs. Layoutshooter is a former full time Red Cross instructor. She left for many reasons. One of those reasons was that she did NOT wish to teach these watered down classes. Her standards are far higher than those of the ARC. As are mine.