Border ban angers Mexico truckers....

piper1

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And they should be stopped from doing so and banned from trucking in the US for ever!! Open the scales in the US and enforce the laws already on the books! I wouldn't care if I got stopped 3 times a trip if it meant that people who broke the laws got caught. It happens up here as well, especially with Toronto to Montreal freight, it's our own **** fault that we don't enforce the rules here and let it happen.
 

wellarmed

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tough titty said the kitty....:D

Prime example of Location, location, location....you are miffed because you don't get the miles?

Solution: Take a load to Canada and get a return trip to Laredo...the same way other "American" truckers do....what you propose cuts off one leg to save the other bad leg....and to wit...the same American trucker can take a load all the way to Canada...tsk, tsk....

I get plenty of miles thank you. This thread is not about an individual it's about the country as a whole, sorry you missed that. There are safe well maintained fleets in Mexico,Canada and the U.S. but every one seems to want to single out the junk they see and of course if your doing a report on Mexican drivers and are apposed to the border crossing you are not going to target a safe Mexican driver are you. I used to drive for a Canadian company and never crossed the border and never will. I practice what I preach unlike most. You are way off the point yet exactly right, the same American driver can take that load and get about 1650 American miles, it was the few additional miles going into Canada VS. the additional miles the Canadian driver gets coming into the U.S. that was the point, It's not a fair trade off for the U.S. driver. I'm not in the EO circle of twenty so I wouldn't expect you or any of the others to agree but rather hang out in the soapbox and preach one sided politics and contradict your selves from thread to thread. And It is not a proposal I was making it was just my thought and would take the Canadian hand out of the American workers pocket. No one seems to want Mexican workers so why is a Canadian any different. And you do not have to answer that question because we will never agree.:p
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
And they should be stopped from doing so and banned from trucking in the US for ever!! Open the scales in the US and enforce the laws already on the books! I wouldn't care if I got stopped 3 times a trip if it meant that people who broke the laws got caught. It happens up here as well, especially with Toronto to Montreal freight, it's our own **** fault that we don't enforce the rules here and let it happen.

Illegal loads are scarce but in this economy might be on the rise as truckers struggle with their truck payments...it should be something BOTH sides should be looking for...making sure the BOL is legal and correct....
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I get plenty of miles thank you. This thread is not about an individual it's about the country as a whole, sorry you missed that. There are safe well maintained fleets in Mexico,Canada and the U.S. but every one seems to want to single out the junk they see and of course if your doing a report on Mexican drivers and are apposed to the border crossing you are not going to target a safe Mexican driver are you. I used to drive for a Canadian company and never crossed the border and never will. I practice what I preach unlike most. You are way off the point yet exactly right, the same American driver can take that load and get about 1650 American miles, it was the few additional miles going into Canada VS. the additional miles the Canadian driver gets coming into the U.S. that was the point, It's not a fair trade off for the U.S. driver. I'm not in the EO circle of twenty so I wouldn't expect you or any of the others to agree but rather hang out in the soapbox and preach one sided politics and contradict your selves from thread to thread. And It is not a proposal I was making it was just my thought and would take the Canadian hand out of the American workers pocket. No one seems to want Mexican workers so why is a Canadian any different. And you do not have to answer that question because we will never agree.:p

Actually I call them the dirty dozen but I didn't take a real head count...;)

you mean an American trucker is not getting the same miles IF coming out of Canada to Laredo with a load...? I am confused
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
water under the bridge as they say....I'll not argue with my esteemed colleague over trivial details..all this tit for tat gets us nowhere..we all have to work together....:)
 

wellarmed

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I would like to point out that OVM seemed to take this personally and it is not personal. It is that I don't understand the difference in a Canadian driver VS. a Mexican driver. I do know some Canadians and have always gotten along with them and they know were I stand but that has never stopped us from breaking bread together. I've always enjoyed Pipers post, found them informative and funny(when they were meant to be) and thought he would be someone fun to meet. Nobody here seems to be able to agree to disagree if one is outside the circle.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I would like to point out that OVM seemed to take this personally and it is not personal. It is that I don't understand the difference in a Canadian driver VS. a Mexican driver. I do know some Canadians and have always gotten along with them and they know were I stand but that has never stopped us from breaking bread together. I've always enjoyed Pipers post, found them informative and funny(when they were meant to be) and thought he would be someone fun to meet. Nobody here seems to be able to agree to disagree if one is outside the circle.

I did and shouldn't have and I apologize....
 

wellarmed

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I've said before I have a hard time expressing in type and it always seems to come out a little harsher than if spoken so I am sorry if I may have lead you into taking it personally.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I have the same problem with type...the words sometimes don't match the thought and it comes out wrong...and or is taken wrong because I use the incorrect wording or definition...I don't mean to or ever intend in insult or demean anyone anytime..those that have met me know this...

One day may we do break bread and not each others heads..*L*
 

piper1

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Owner/Operator
'Tis OK sir.....I have spent every vacation dollar I have in your neck of the woods for the last 10 years......(well sort of, does Bristol count?) I would much rather spend time with my freinds in East Tennessee than to spend it in Toronto. People like OVM come from Toronto!:D
 

wellarmed

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'Tis OK sir.....I have spent every vacation dollar I have in your neck of the woods for the last 10 years......(well sort of, does Bristol count?) I would much rather spend time with my freinds in East Tennessee than to spend it in Toronto. People like OVM come from Toronto!:D

Sure Bristol counts I'm about 40 miles or so north on I81, Chilhowie Va.(translates to valley of deer) Not quite the big city life of Bristol, LOL, but we do have a Traffic light and a grocery store and Ive heard some rumor about indoor plumbing but can't figure how to get that sears catalog to stay on the roll.:D And I to have spent some vacation money in your neck of the woods and I really mean woods, Saskatchewan woods.
 
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wellarmed

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OVM, read the thread"what would you do" and again nothing personal, just joking with Jenny but I don't think she knew what I was referring to.
 

greg334

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I know a many good Canadian drivers who would love to work here but can't so why are Canadian allowed to drive on IRT show even though they don't live here?

I do support Canadians to work here, I lost my job to one but that's because I can speak the same English language or at least understand enough Quebec style French to know when someone is mad at me. But I am having problems with the spanish thing.
 

chefdennis

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it is going to happen , this eeting will push it up more then it has been...and it has been being worked on for months...barry has Lahood lobbying all over the place to let the mexican trucks run all over the country...it is going to happen, barry wants it...and with that i am sure his supporters are all for it also:

Trucking news: Mexican trucks could be heading this way soon, DOT's LaHood says - 5/26/2009 - Logistics Management

http://www.logisticsmgmt.com/article/CA6660569.html
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I know a many good Canadian drivers who would love to work here but can't so why are Canadian allowed to drive on IRT show even though they don't live here?

I do support Canadians to work here, I lost my job to one but that's because I can speak the same English language or at least understand enough Quebec style French to know when someone is mad at me. But I am having problems with the spanish thing.

Called a temporary work visa....same as US film crews in Canada....
 

arkjarhead

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I know a many good Canadian drivers who would love to work here but can't so why are Canadian allowed to drive on IRT show even though they don't live here?

The same way all those Aussies, New Zealanders, and South Africans come here and work for a year at a time and then go home or they get an extension and stay longer.
 

morningstar55ny

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Driver
Do they pay them the same as the American workers were paid and any benifits? Same working hours, same everything? I have a feeling they don't.


i dont know..... all i know is ..... what I see ..and hear.
i see them out in the fields.. busing tables.. cleaning bathrooms.... and more... just jobs a lot americans wont do
 
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