Being sick on the road

Dreamer · Jan 16, 2012

Yes, it was because they were taking a picture of a dead body.....

Dale

layoutshooter · Jan 16, 2012

Dreamer said:
Yes, it was because they were taking a picture of a dead body.....

Dale

Not to mention that the ghoul in question was also endangering the safety of the fire/rescue crew, the ambulance crew AND himself. He was also interfering with ongoing operations. When asked to me he refused.

AMonger · Jan 16, 2012

layoutshooter said:
"I'm not criticizing the firemen who do that. Everybody knows you can't park in front of a hydrant, so if there's a fire... But I've heard that firemen have been told not to do this any more, regardless."

Please post the link to where you have heard that firefighters are not going to run a line where it's needs run, through a car that cannot be moved if need be. It would not make sense, supply lines have to be laid where needed. I would love to read that one to see the justification to impede operations and endanger lives and/or property.

I have laid miles (our company carried 2500' of 5" hose on our tanker, 1500" on our engine and 500" on our brush truck.) during the years that I was a volunteer. In every case we put it where fire operations dictated. There is no other way. Never had to run it through a car, but would have if need be. Did shut down LOTS of roads for HOURS with it.

I don't think it was on this forum. What I had heard was that every driver that gets their windows busted out files a claim or sues because of both the broken glass and extensive water damage, and cities just decided that, even if the claims are dismissed in the end, the claims and suits are too much trouble and consume too many resources and man hours. I don't remember where I heard this, but it wasn't too long ago.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

layoutshooter · Jan 16, 2012

AMonger said:
I don't think it was on this forum. What I had heard was that every driver that gets their windows busted out files a claim or sues because of both the broken glass and extensive water damage, and cities just decided that, even if the claims are dismissed in the end, the claims and suits are too much trouble and consume too many resources and man hours. I don't remember where I heard this, but it wasn't too long ago.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

If you find it let me know. That would be the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. I would LOVE to read that.

AMonger · Jan 16, 2012

layoutshooter said:
If you find it let me know. That would be the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. I would LOVE to read that.

I'm thinking it was on an email forum. I'll look to see if I can dig it up...if I don't get the boot first.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

purgoose10 · Jan 16, 2012

greg334 said:
The hose pressure seldom exceeds 200 psi with the average being 100-125 psi. The hose burst pressure is around 1200 psi.

But depending in the nossle used and distance, the pressure can be less than 40 psi when it hits something.

I stand corrected on the pressure, I put to many zeros in it.
As far as cars and hoses, you need to spend some time in NY watching them fight fires. You cannot make a claim because of damage because you interfered with fire operations. The cops on the scene are writting tickets. Don't get in the way of NY city firefighters, the law is totally on their side.

AMonger · Jan 16, 2012

purgoose10 said:
I stand corrected on the pressure, I put to many zeros in it.
As far as cars and hoses, you need to spend some time in NY watching them fight fires. You cannot make a claim because of damage because you interfered with fire operations. The cops on the scene are writting tickets. Don't get in the way of NY city firefighters, the law is totally on their side.

I don't disagree. Everybody knows not to block a fire hydrant. BUT...I'm just saying that the city (don't remember if it was NYC but I think so) concluded that even when the claims were dismissed, dealing with them was too much hassle so they told firemen not to bash the windows and run the hose through anymore. I sent a message to a retired fireman from another list, asking him if he was the source of what I'd heard. We'll see.

They may be technically in the right to pass the hose through, but sometimes the hassle is too great, even if you're in the right.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.