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Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Why is the way you and Diane do it always the only way?

The bigger question is why do you think that every piece of advice that comes from Phil's keyboard seems to mean something other than exactly what was written? There was never any hint, not a clue, that "my way or the highway" was any intended part of that post. For whatever reason, you came up with that one all on your own. Any image that's getting tarnished here is your own.

You may very well epitomize the reason that people should stick to replying to what was posted rather than to who posted it. When you bring personalities and other things from outside of a thread into the current thread, nothing good ever comes of that.
 

broker

Seasoned Expediter
For the same reason nobody should get involved with speaking for ATeam when I respond directly to him.
That is, you haven't been on the recieving end (mine) of having ATeam fire the first shot at me.
I got on here at the beginning and was honest, telling about myself. That I would respect everyones opinions and in return, please respect mine. I also warned, give me a hard time, I can give it back.

I don't need anyone to speak for me, I'm a big boy and chose to play on here.
I will also play by your rules, which means I can dish it out with the best if necessary.

I have never said anything negative about any of the EO members that have come to ATeams rescue and then start attacking me.
I find these unprovoked.
If you feel it necessary to speak for him, so be it. Don't follow up then with a personal attack on me.
BIG JOHN
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
For the same reason nobody should get involved with speaking for ATeam when I respond directly to him.
You really need to learn the difference between a Private Message and a Public Forum. Trust me, no one here ever speaks for ATeam, they speak for themselves. Me included.

But you semi-skillfully avoided the non-rhetorical question. I'll ask it again, rephrased to make sure you understand it.
Why do you think advice from the ATeam is meant to be taken to mean something other than precisely what was written?

Why do you think someone should read between the lines to discover some hidden meaning behind ATeam's advice?

Why do you think ATeam believes their way is the only correct way to do anything? I've certainly never read that from Phil. In fact, more often than not, he goes to great pains to point out that what works for him may not work for anyone else.

That is, you haven't been on the recieving end (mine) of having ATeam fire the first shot at me.
Sorry, that's incorrect. I have. The difference is, I don't take it personally, and can completely separate that from whatever the current thread is.

I got on here at the beginning and was honest, telling about myself. That I would respect everyones opinions and in return, please respect mine. I also warned, give me a hard time, I can give it back.
Then respect someone else's opinion if they choose to speak for Phil here in an open forum.

I don't need anyone to speak for me, I'm a big boy and chose to play on here.
I don't recall anyone here ever even attempting to speak for you.

I will also play by your rules, which means I can dish it out with the best if necessary.
Not from what I've seen. From my perspective, you can dish it out but you can't take it. The best can also take it.

I have never said anything negative about any of the EO members that have come to ATeams rescue and then start attacking me.

I find these unprovoked.
If you feel it necessary to speak for him, so be it. Don't follow up then with a personal attack on me.
BIG JOHN
No one is attacking you, and me speaking my opinion is hardly the equivalent of me speaking for ATeam. If you think this reply here, or what I posted above, is a personal attack on you, then you are way, way too full of yourself. Trust me, I don't know you well enough to attack you, and frankly, don't care.

Do keep in mind that this...

"Why is the way you and Diane do it always the only way?

Come on Phil, you are very looked up to on here for opinions
and advice (including me).
Don't tarnish that image with the "my way or the hiway" thinking."

...is an attack, no matter how you want to spin it. You took perfectly neutral advice, injected something that wasn't there (just made it up), and then used it to as a knock against someone else. Seems to me that you might want to consider practicing what you preach.

I know you see this as an attack, but it's not. It's the same free advice that Phil gives out. You get what you pay for here. Use it or not, up to you.
 

broker

Seasoned Expediter
Turtle, you have your way of looking at things that are directed towards you, I have mine. Want to talk about you and me, that would be fine with me.
I don't tell you how to deal with what others say to you, give me same respect.
If something I say directly involves you, let me know. So far I don't see where I have had an issue with you until now.

Now, in respect for your concern over all this, I will give you one example, out of many.

I posted a topic on here for no other reason than to inform fellow Expediters of a new law, that could cost them money in fines.
It was that New Jersey had put into effect that you could no longer use cell phones while driving.
I told how I read it on the wall of a toll plaza and talked personaly with a trooper about it, BEFORE POSTING THIS.
Phil gets on the post and states "broker is giving false information"
Now if anybody doesn't think that was a personal attack, then we have real problems.
He could have said the trooper was wrong (ya right) or the sign on the plaza was wrong, not that "I" was giving false information.

There, I gave you one many examples.
Phil has never sent me a private email about what his issues are with me.
Like I said, he fired the first shot (before this), after I had told everyone from the start, give me the same respect I give you.

Now, other than ATeam, do you have any other issues with me?

Other than you getting involved with how I see ATeam, I have none with you.
BIG JOHN
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Everyone has had their say and this thread got kinda derailed.
Let's put it back on folks buying trucks.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I told how I read it on the wall of a toll plaza and talked personaly with a trooper about it, BEFORE POSTING THIS.
Phil gets on the post and states "broker is giving false information"
Now if anybody doesn't think that was a personal attack, then we have real problems.

I'm not sure what problems "we" have, LOL, but that was, in no way, shape or form, a personal attack. It was simply pointing out info that was false. And, you were, after all, the one that posted it. This is a glowing example of something I said in another thread this morning. Disagreement taken as a personal attack. Yes, you did cite your sources, and we understand that you were either told something that was wrong, or, possibly, and this ISN'T an attack, maybe you misunderstood something. Either way, you posted info that was wrong.

I'm just sayin'...
 

broker

Seasoned Expediter
I am going to respect Daves suggestion and make this my last response.

Forget that ATeam said "I" was giving FALSE information.
The fact is I WAS NOT. What I said was true.
He gave an internet site for all to read.
Guess what, it said what I had posted.

BIG JOHN
 

Doggie Daddy

Veteran Expediter
I am going to respect Daves suggestion and make this my last response.

Forget that ATeam said "I" was giving FALSE information.
The fact is I WAS NOT. What I said was true.
He gave an internet site for all to read.
Guess what, it said what I had posted.

BIG JOHN

BIG JAWN,are you gonna take your ball and go home again?:rolleyes:

Methinks you are way too sensitive for this forum,you should lighten up bit before it causes you some serious health problems.
 
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dletheridge

Seasoned Expediter
Researching
Is the OIDA 'review" done by attorney's or is it done by legal assistants?

What does the 'review" consist of?

If the result of the review is a simple 'its a good one' it's not worth it. If it points out areas that would result in a bad situation for the person requesting the review - it would be worth the money.
 
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