greg334
Veteran Expediter
Yes I know that, but you know some may not go the short way around the barn...
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Yes I know that, but you know some may not go the short way around the barn...
The entire mess just sucks. This has some deeper roots that just CARB. I still say that they are trying to get rid of O/O and have ONLY a few BIG trucking companies and ALL Teamster drivers. I don't just governments at all. I just assume that they are sinister unless they prove different. Thats ok, if they put me out of business I will just go on welfare. I am TIRED of supporting every bum in the country. I have spent more money in my life on taxes than just about anything else. Most of that was wasted on bums. Now those same bums run the country and they are trying to put those who fed them for years out of work. Makes sense to me. 
Regarding truck engines receiving an early death sentence, I spoke about this with my Volvo dealer this afternoon. He said it is already happening in some quarters.
He has seen grant money offered in Indiana designed to move people move into cleaner trucks. One of the many strings attached (different program) is the destruction of the old truck engine. The grant recipient moves into a new truck while the value of the old truck is reduced to that of a used truck with no engine and the need to put a new one in if that truck was ever to roll again.
He has seen grant money offered in Indiana designed to move people move into cleaner trucks. One of the many strings attached (different program) is the destruction of the old truck engine. The grant recipient moves into a new truck while the value of the old truck is reduced to that of a used truck with no engine and the need to put a new one in if that truck was ever to roll again.
Facism run amok. I cannot believe that this is happening in this country. What a waste of resorces. All to fix a problem that does not exsit. It must be that I am paranoid and they are right.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
That's basically what it is, Layout.
It seems to me that this occupation will be limited to those who have a large stake in it with cheap employees as drivers in the next few years. We will see some BIG changes, mostly because the trucking industry is scattered between three different groups. I blame the independents for some of it but I blame the drivers who have no stake in any of it.
CARB is one of many issues that face not the industry but individuals and seeing my question was answered about the constitutionality of CARB by the administration directly, I don't see hope for anything outside of large carriers moving freight. Just readin Browner and her ideas of how we as a country need to approach these 'problems' scares me. No one seems to take her comments seriously in this industry and care only about making the next buck.
I do see the demise of people like me and you in this business, the people who are part of a system that will not be useful for generalized freight, however you have a bit of an advantage but still you are independent. I see the falling of owners who are tightly defined in a niche of the market with large expensive trucks and refusal to compromise on what they haul or how much they make on each load. The drivers who boast about immunity because of the company they are with will face what many of us have faced in the past. Even the "paid off" trucks may have zero marketability if this all comes to past and then the owners will have nothing but a glorified commercial RV on their hands. People like me, the ones some elitist claim to be failures may be the ones who make it through this alive because of our 'investment' is small enough to just drop the truck off and collect our money at the window at the scrap yard.
It seems to me that this occupation will be limited to those who have a large stake in it with cheap employees as drivers in the next few years. We will see some BIG changes, mostly because the trucking industry is scattered between three different groups. I blame the independents for some of it but I blame the drivers who have no stake in any of it.
CARB is one of many issues that face not the industry but individuals and seeing my question was answered about the constitutionality of CARB by the administration directly, I don't see hope for anything outside of large carriers moving freight. Just readin Browner and her ideas of how we as a country need to approach these 'problems' scares me. No one seems to take her comments seriously in this industry and care only about making the next buck.
I do see the demise of people like me and you in this business, the people who are part of a system that will not be useful for generalized freight, however you have a bit of an advantage but still you are independent. I see the falling of owners who are tightly defined in a niche of the market with large expensive trucks and refusal to compromise on what they haul or how much they make on each load. The drivers who boast about immunity because of the company they are with will face what many of us have faced in the past. Even the "paid off" trucks may have zero marketability if this all comes to past and then the owners will have nothing but a glorified commercial RV on their hands. People like me, the ones some elitist claim to be failures may be the ones who make it through this alive because of our 'investment' is small enough to just drop the truck off and collect our money at the window at the scrap yard.
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I thought the whole idea behind CARB ostensible was to reduce pollution. Destroying perfectly good reefer engines and truck engines doesn't seem very green to me. At least not green in the environmental sense. Pockets lined with green, YES.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Moot,
You have to understand it's government, their input of resources out strips their output something like 50 to 1.
So imagine being the paper salesman for the EPA account, how rich would you be on commission?
How many trees are sacrificed to feed the hungry EPA in just testing one engine?
You have to understand it's government, their input of resources out strips their output something like 50 to 1.
So imagine being the paper salesman for the EPA account, how rich would you be on commission?
How many trees are sacrificed to feed the hungry EPA in just testing one engine?
Well, I can promise you one thing, if they screw me they are screwing the wrong man. I WILL get mine back, one way or the other. I am tired. I can no longer support bums, drug addicts and mal-contents. I can only fight this fight so long, at 58 it gets harder everyday. The garbage will have to support me if I go under. The heck with it. It is getting to the point where it is just no longer worth the trouble. That day may just come sooner than I want it too or think it will. I just wrote Dingell a letter, I can't wait to see the answer, most likely he won't answer this one just like all the others. Dam polititions.
moose
Veteran Expediter
Let's see,
eventually the extra costs will be past on to the rates ,
that probably will take some time .a lot of time.
the problem is how to whether the storm till then .
(it is actually quite like we see now with the expedite rate of rising fuel costs.
it is taking the market place some time to update the rates, till then we buy more expensive fuel at yesterday rate/fsc.)
as for the trucks , i have seeing first sign (not enough info. to report on) of opening market for those engines south of the border .maybe someone will some day offer some 10K for a good used D60.
Moose.
And we get to pay for it to put ourselves out of business.
That is actually true. They are also going to be giving money to the Mexican truckers that work at the ports in CA. Why? Because they don't have the money. Originally this was to be paid by the state, but they are now broke. Looks like it may be another federal program.
Does anyone have titles of these programs? I would LOVE to ask my Congressman why I am paying non-citizens to put myself out of business?
moose
Veteran Expediter
Unfortunately for me , i just bought a new Cal. approved APU 8 weeks ago ...payed cash...kind off...
timing is everything...
once i got that OOIDA E-mail ,
i looked every where for a place in my business for those Grants (, hey it's free money , if someone is going to get it , it might as well be gone into a good small business , )
no can do ...
2 weeks to go ...
maybe i can get an apu and give it away to miss layout ...
i do wonder if , let say i will use those grants, and get the government into my business , what will they want in return ? , controlling my business ? , more then they do already ?like with some of the new bailouts ?
there is no free puppy ...
also , why did they came up with this program ? is it so they can get more federal money ? maybe they like us ?, money laundering ?
Moose.
timing is everything...
once i got that OOIDA E-mail ,
i looked every where for a place in my business for those Grants (, hey it's free money , if someone is going to get it , it might as well be gone into a good small business , )
no can do ...
2 weeks to go ...
maybe i can get an apu and give it away to miss layout ...
i do wonder if , let say i will use those grants, and get the government into my business , what will they want in return ? , controlling my business ? , more then they do already ?like with some of the new bailouts ?
there is no free puppy ...
also , why did they came up with this program ? is it so they can get more federal money ? maybe they like us ?, money laundering ?
Moose.
Miss Layout? Did I miss something here? LOL
moose
Veteran Expediter
Here is the formal place to ask :
[email protected]
looks like they will not give money for fuel saving devices , (like Super Singles , air tabs ,side skirts,ext...)
only repower , and major engine upgrades (pdf ,egr...)
Moose.
[email protected]
looks like they will not give money for fuel saving devices , (like Super Singles , air tabs ,side skirts,ext...)
only repower , and major engine upgrades (pdf ,egr...)
Moose.
If I did not know the source to be reliable, this is not the kind of story I would repeat without verifying it because it sounds too much like truck stop chatter. But the source is reliable. He is my reefer dealer, who I know as well as any good business contact I have. He is careful and specific about the info he gives out and not prone to exaggeration.
He recently told me that he saw Mexicans working on used tractors in the Memphis area. They were using a torch to cut the frame in two, loading the drive axles on one flatbed and the front part of the tractors on the other. He said the trucks were being exported for use in Mexico where they would be put back together. They are cut in two because tax-wise it is cheaper to import truck parts into Mexico than whole trucks.
Here are photos of the DPF device. This is not the exact item that would go on our truck but similar. Pictured is the DPF that appeared on 2007 model year Volvo trucks. Truck is shown with the fairing removed. When the fairing is on, the DPF is hidden from view.
