I didnt list all the facts on this one so probly why you dont understand.These three drivers were on the hometime board 1-2 weeks before christmas.They were in areas that should of gotton them home before christmas.I understand its not a for sure thing.Then Panther goes out and helps out drivers from a different company, but cant even give a lousy empty move home for christmas?Honestly most driver Ive talked to from various companys are just getting by.There is no extra money,especially on the holidays.some cant even afford to ide the truck for heat.
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I didnt list all the facts on this one so probly why you dont understand.These three drivers were on the hometime board 1-2 weeks before christmas.They were in areas that should of gotton them home before christmas.I understand its not a for sure thing.Then Panther goes out and helps out drivers from a different company, but cant even give a lousy empty move home for christmas?Honestly most driver Ive talked to from various companys are just getting by.There is no extra money,especially on the holidays.some cant even afford to ide the truck for heat.
That is about what I get out of this. Just another with a hand out thinking that someone owes them something. All of our trucks used the hometime and got home with no problems. Oops...wait a minute. That now might be favortism.
Anyone can armchair quarterback something after the fact. The fact that they stepped up to do something for several good causes should be the focus rather than why YOU didn't benefit.
And lastly, if folks aren't eating and can't stay warm in the winter for lack of funds, then get out of this business.
They have a much bigger problem than whether a carrier does something for a good cause.
Hopefully everyone gave a little of themselves through the holiday.
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I am with you Dave..those who can not afford heat or enough fuel to get home...
as the song goes..Nana nana, hey hey goodbye!
Go flip burgers...or Walmart greeter..pays better for most.
Nobody has yet to bash the executives at the financial arms of Daimler, Paccar and International for continuing to extend credit and reworking payment schedules for an obviously unhealthy company.
If I was an Arrow driver I would hold a going out of business sale before I turned in the truck. 70% off all tarps, chains, binders, coil chocks and straps. I'm sure driver payroll will be at the bottom of the list of people to pay.
If I was an Arrow driver I would hold a going out of business sale before I turned in the truck. 70% off all tarps, chains, binders, coil chocks and straps. I'm sure driver payroll will be at the bottom of the list of people to pay.
Reminds me of the time I was siting at the Petro in Atlanta. There was a van driver there who was "broke". He digs out his change jar and comes up with about 8 dollars, his last money. What does he do with it? Goes into the Petro restaurant and spends all of it on one meal all the time talking about how he hopes he gets a load the next day so he could get an advance.
The idiots at Arrow are squarely to blame for that whole mess. They were still recruiting drivers at the beginning of December. Totally reckless and irresponsible.
They spent the last several months doing nothing but lying their *** off.
Telling people they didn't know what happened is a total joke.
They knew months prior they were a sinking ship. Whether they were extended credit or not has little to do with the actual foolishness.
They spent the last several months doing nothing but lying their *** off.
Telling people they didn't know what happened is a total joke.
They knew months prior they were a sinking ship. Whether they were extended credit or not has little to do with the actual foolishness.
I'm not trying to shift blame from the idiots at Arrow. But the ease at which loans are obtained and restructured has a lot to do with the "actual foolishness." Not much different than the banking and home mortgage problems.
I got a heck of a deal on a Bostrom air-ride seat and two 8' chains today. I'm not sure what I will use them for, but at $65 I couldn't pass it up.
Glad you cleared that up. I thought for a moment you were blaming the banks. Banks are desperate now to to reclaim anything they can show on paper. That whole Arrow thing is a mess. Sadly, it is happening on a daily basis, just in other industries. As for the seat and chains, you can throw them in that back and get some cheap entertainment while your watching the freight.
What I don't understand is how someone can be upset at Panther for not getting home. I thought we was all business owners and owner operators? Now, If Panther offered people the chance to get a paid deadhead home for the holidays next year it would be great. But you should have to work for it too. Here is how it can work.
80% in service from Sept 1st till December 22.
80% loads accept rate during that time.
100% on time pickup and delivery.
No preventable accidents.
If you can do all these things, you will get all miles paid home at your deadhead rate up to 1000 miles.
It's a win/win for everyone. More trucks in service during the busy time for Panther. More money in the drivers pockets, plus they get paid to go home on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Would you do it?
80% in service from Sept 1st till December 22.
80% loads accept rate during that time.
100% on time pickup and delivery.
No preventable accidents.
If you can do all these things, you will get all miles paid home at your deadhead rate up to 1000 miles.
It's a win/win for everyone. More trucks in service during the busy time for Panther. More money in the drivers pockets, plus they get paid to go home on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Would you do it?
If you think there was a lack out outrage you haven't been to other trucker forums . I've seen dozens of pages of threads of outrage .
If you were going to in fact turn in the truck you'd be wise to leave all that equipment on the truck and get a receipt for it . If these drivers ever get any backpay from Arrow you can bet the cost of any unreturned equipment will be deducted from their pay .
Regarding the bus station ....Greyhound is packed for the holidays . A member on another forum waited over an hour in line to get a bus ticket only to be told there may not be room for them on the bus when it got there .
Should have to work for it??? You mean that if a truck does 80/80/100 for a lousey quarter of the whole year they should be rewarded??? It may be that you've been on the contractor dole too long if you can't come up with something better than that.
Not sure I would be sold on that. Too many variables and it reminds me too much of a two or three star program offered elsewhere. Deciding loads based on a contest verses whether they are profitable or not would be a problem in the way that we operate.
Under this 1000 mile contest theory, you would be deciding loads on the premise of making 0 to 1000 dollars for that qtr.
I believe that difference could be made up in a week or two with proper load management.
Under this 1000 mile contest theory, you would be deciding loads on the premise of making 0 to 1000 dollars for that qtr.
I believe that difference could be made up in a week or two with proper load management.
At E-1 that is our monthly contest....the difference being NO turndowns!! They profess to the "Power of Yes"....So you lose $30 bucks on a load to win $25....makes cents to me...
Yea your right Dave, but hey they are the ones that can't work the broker boards like you do. Thanks for the hot tip when my one truck was in Az. They got a load to Mi like you said. It was just something they could ask for. Even with our drivers being picky like yours are they still are at 87% accept rate. So I guess you could say they would have that one already.