Arizona shooting: Sarah Palin breaks silence and accuses critics of 'blood libel'
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Only if it is BIG and "tragic" enough for him to "score" enough points. All this running around to these "tragedy rallies" is tawdry at best, but more like disgusting.
witness23
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I would assume if another crime scene happens where there are 19 victims, of whom 6 died, including a 9 year old girl and a Federal Judge, along with a Congress woman fighting for her life, you will more than likely hear another speech much like the one he delivered last night. Let's just hope the President doesn't have to make that decision anytime soon.
I think that they ALL should just stay in Washington and do the job that they are required to do. This is NOT a presidents job. Maybe while he was down there he could have looked into the problems on the border, the ongoing invasion and the civil war in Mexico. I wonder if he even knows there is a border problem. I mean, after all, that IS his job and he as spent 2 years avoiding dealing with constitutional requirements.
He should have flown over Tucson in a chopper.
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Why? What would he be looking for?
dieseldiva
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Really??? My liberal friends and relatives will be surprised when I tell them!
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witness23
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greg334
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Why should I hear more speeches from a president who has divided the country even more? This didn't devastate the country, this wasn't an attack on our way of life or something that happened from outside of the country but internally and limited in scope and purpose from the actions of the criminal himself.
IT is an illustration of two things, the problem with our mental health system (which I do agree that more has to be done but not at the expense of our rights) and the divisiveness of the political system we live with which is aggravated by the media and those who thrive off of events like this.
It shows how we as a country can come to our knees over the deaths of 9 people while ignoring other crimes that are caused by the same exact inept politicians who are crying about how they need protection now more than ever.
A lost of one 9 year old, as tragic as it really is, does not mean that others are not as deserving to be remembered. It isn't just her death that has marred the country, but all the deaths of countless children that we endured for years without as much as a peep out of our president, the media or congress.
What has a federal judge or congressman have to do with a nut case who wants to kill an individual who he feels represents evil?
NOT A D*MN THING and it brings up the serious question why do we have to lower our tolerance for 'tragedies' just because an elected official and a sitting judge who wasn't doing his job got killed?
I don't see the connection how this is an attack on our way of life or political system as many many want it to be or keep saying, do you?
The criminal's actions, not writings, speak of violence without thinking, as has been the case in many many killings of innocent people. His writings are those like many many others, INCLUDING those who are entertainers and comedians, radio/TV hosts, POLITICIANS and other 'credible' media professionals who spoke of killing or physically harming Bush when he was in office. SO where do you draw the line?
Is this such a national tragedy that we forsake our rights and protect those people who lead us by the nose?
What standard are we to adhere to when it comes down to these types of issues, are we supposed to have the double standard to consider a federal judge and congressman more important than say a 12 and 14 year old who is shot in a drive by because of the Mexican Civil war is spilling over into the US?
Or is it are we supposed to excuse the rhetoric by the elite we place in congress and those intellectuals in the media who seem to say some pretty awful and incitement things about those who oppose their ideology?
I feel the effort is misplaced, the rhetoric and grandstanding is just that, rhetoric and grandstanding by those who seek more and more political power. These are people who are not unlike you or me, so let's treat it as they are just like you or me.
I'm worried he'll get carpal tunnel syndrome
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Naw, he uses voice to text software!
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Why?
Because I am seeing more and more manipulation by the media and people are falling for it?
I see a serious pattern of propaganda forming around some of these events for political purposed just like that of regimes in the past, Horst Wessel anyone?
How about we morn those who are lost by actually not making a big whoop over it and ignoring the media for a week by turning off the news and reflecting on our own lives and how important people around us are?
letzrockexpress
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Does anyone here honestly think she had ever heard the term "blood libel" before it was written for her?
Definitely not.. I don't believe she knew what it meant after she said it either..I seriously doubt she would know the difference between "Blood Libel' and "Black Label". She proves on a regular basis she's not rocket science material...She's kinda hot though in a "Nice cage but where's the bird" sorta way....
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Does anyone here honestly think she had ever heard the term "blood libel" before it was written for her?
Whether she knew what it meant or not she definately got it right.
Right in our own forum are some fine examples of the results from media manipulation and their adherence to the liberal democrat template assigned to Sarah Palin - who happens to be their most recent political target. Take a few lies, mix them with some baseless ridicule from Sat Night Live and add that to the arrogance and bigotry the liberal elites harbor towards most anybody that's from a rural state and who didn't graduate from an Ivy League school. Repeat this over and over ad nauseum and before long that person becomes a bit tainted from the big lie.
The thing about Sarah Palin is that unlike George Bush, she doesn't hesitate one bit in firing back at them. She hit them right between the eyes with the "blood libel" comment, and you can tell by the squealing from the liberals that it was effective. Was she familiar with the term, or has she used it often in everyday conversation? Maybe, maybe not, but who cares? And how many of us think that she's the only politician who has speechwriters?
In a more genteel society she and her family wouldn't be personally smeared every day in the mainstream media for being an effective conservative politician. Besides, how many of these smarmy liberals are the least bit concerned about the death threats she gets every day? One can't help but wonder how much national gnashing of teeth and rending of garments there would be if the wounded congressman and been somebody like former AZ representative J.D. Hayworth.
The thing about Sarah Palin is that unlike George Bush, she doesn't hesitate one bit in firing back at them. She hit them right between the eyes with the "blood libel" comment, and you can tell by the squealing from the liberals that it was effective. Was she familiar with the term, or has she used it often in everyday conversation? Maybe, maybe not, but who cares? And how many of us think that she's the only politician who has speechwriters?
In a more genteel society she and her family wouldn't be personally smeared every day in the mainstream media for being an effective conservative politician. Besides, how many of these smarmy liberals are the least bit concerned about the death threats she gets every day? One can't help but wonder how much national gnashing of teeth and rending of garments there would be if the wounded congressman and been somebody like former AZ representative J.D. Hayworth.
I suspect Sarah Palin wouldn't know the difference between "blood libel" and "blood slander" even if it were explained to her.
The seething, hate-filled rhetoric that is ubiquitous in this country needs to stop, and people need to just discuss the issues without attacking each other. Whether or not any of this has anything to do with the Arizona shooter is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that the shooting has brought the subject to the forefront.
To paraphrase Shakespeare, some people are born leaders, some achieve leadership, and some have leadership thrust upon them. On top of that, she had a golden opportunity, presented to her on a silver platter, to take charge and show real leadership, and she failed miserably. You can't scrub the crosshairs from your Web site within hours of the shooting and then later convincingly claim there is no connection whatsoever with the rhetoric. Obviously, the hate-filled rhetoric was well entrenched in this country long before Palin hit the spotlight, so it's quite unfair to blame her for it all, as some want to do. But she like many of us fell in lock-step with with and keep on perpetuating it. She had the perfect opportunity to take a different path, to steer those she is leading, and others, to the path of civility, but chose instead to light a fire under the rhetoric.
Sarah Palin is a natural born leader who, even when leadership is thrust upon her, still can't lead.
The seething, hate-filled rhetoric that is ubiquitous in this country needs to stop, and people need to just discuss the issues without attacking each other. Whether or not any of this has anything to do with the Arizona shooter is irrelevant, it doesn't change the fact that the shooting has brought the subject to the forefront.
To paraphrase Shakespeare, some people are born leaders, some achieve leadership, and some have leadership thrust upon them. On top of that, she had a golden opportunity, presented to her on a silver platter, to take charge and show real leadership, and she failed miserably. You can't scrub the crosshairs from your Web site within hours of the shooting and then later convincingly claim there is no connection whatsoever with the rhetoric. Obviously, the hate-filled rhetoric was well entrenched in this country long before Palin hit the spotlight, so it's quite unfair to blame her for it all, as some want to do. But she like many of us fell in lock-step with with and keep on perpetuating it. She had the perfect opportunity to take a different path, to steer those she is leading, and others, to the path of civility, but chose instead to light a fire under the rhetoric.
Sarah Palin is a natural born leader who, even when leadership is thrust upon her, still can't lead.
Black Sheep
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Every now and then somebody cuts through all the BS and the smokescreen put out by the liberal propaganda machine and brings an issue into focus. This happened today in the Wall Street Journal in an article by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach (my bold emphasis added):
"Despite the strong association of the term with collective Jewish guilt and concomitant slaughter, Sarah Palin has every right to use it. The expression may be used whenever an amorphous mass is collectively accused of being murderers or accessories to murder.
The abominable element of the blood libel is not that it was used to accuse Jews, but that it was used to accuse innocent Jews—their innocence, rather than their Jewishness, being the operative point. Had the Jews been guilty of any of these heinous acts, the charge would not have been a libel."
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: Sarah Palin Is Right About 'Blood Libel' - WSJ.com
I'll bet it's safe to say that the Jewish people aren't the only group that has been falsely accused of heinous acts. But when looking for reasons to be offended by your political opponents it's nice to have something like this handy.
"Despite the strong association of the term with collective Jewish guilt and concomitant slaughter, Sarah Palin has every right to use it. The expression may be used whenever an amorphous mass is collectively accused of being murderers or accessories to murder.
The abominable element of the blood libel is not that it was used to accuse Jews, but that it was used to accuse innocent Jews—their innocence, rather than their Jewishness, being the operative point. Had the Jews been guilty of any of these heinous acts, the charge would not have been a libel."
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: Sarah Palin Is Right About 'Blood Libel' - WSJ.com
I'll bet it's safe to say that the Jewish people aren't the only group that has been falsely accused of heinous acts. But when looking for reasons to be offended by your political opponents it's nice to have something like this handy.