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bluejaybee

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
International trucks on the road? I'm talking the class 8 tractor type. Are they making a comeback? Or have they never been gone?

It just seems that I am noticing more of them lately. International always had a high number of class 7's running around. But I don't remember the class 8's in the numbers I am seeing now.
 
piper1

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Very aggressive selling going on to fleets. Pricing is really cheap (comparably) to FTL and Volvo right now. That new ProStar is also a very aerodynamic truck.

A lot of it has to do with who is running the company right now and the path International has chosen for 2010 emissions. They need to sell a lot of trucks now to bank emission credits as they won't have their 2010 engines meeting standards at the deadline.
 
guido4475

guido4475

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Right now they are the #1 selling truck,and alot of fleets are buying them.They spent alot of time and research developing the Prostar and the Lonestar,even though the Prostar is becoming real popular right now.It is a real nice truck for the $$.I also think the Prostar would make a nice class 8 straight truck.
 
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Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
Read this article and see if you share my opinion that Navistar doesn't deserve business from O/O's . You might even tell the reps from Navistar at the show they shouldn't expect much business from the expedite industry because according to their James Hebe all O/O's will no longer exist in a few years . Trucking Faces Core Changes, Hebe Says | Transport Topics Online | Trucking, Freight Transportation and Logistics News . The statements by Hebe are not only highly insulting to O/O's but the carriers that use them , implying that carriers pay insufficient rates to allow contractors to survive running legally and that carriers safety departments ignore violations by O/O's .
To make Hebe eat his words O/O's should buy trucks made by PACCAR and Volvo/Mack and not be the fool Hebe plays you for , expecting you to buy a truck he admits will suffer in quality by being built by unskilled Mexican workers . The jobs losses and loss of freight caused by Daimler and Navistar moving to Mexico directly affect you . Don't put money in the pockets of people taking food off your table .
 
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greg334

greg334

Veteran Expediter
piper1 said:
Very aggressive selling going on to fleets. Pricing is really cheap (comparably) to FTL and Volvo right now. That new ProStar is also a very aerodynamic truck
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This may also be reflected in the drop in the resale value of the trucks coming off the line. I noticed a lot of fleet trucks in the west becoming cheaper in the last few months.
 
moose

moose

Veteran Expediter
I think (oh' boy...)
that many are waiting for the 2010 SCR engines to hit the market next fall .
the 2009 platform is getting mild performance at best ,
and we all know that they are getting better fuel millage in Europe , using SCR .
if you are a fleet , will you be the last to buy a 6.5 Mpg engine ?
what if the SCR gets 7.5 ? , or 8 ?
will you still be in business 5 years down the road ?
 
Andrew0580

Andrew0580

Seasoned Expediter
I read in landline in 2010 you will still be able to get a cat engine in international class 8 trucks even though cat is not selling to anyone else. International is going to take the C-15 paint it blue put on their own fuel system and call it the Maxxforce-15. I guess this is because international is going to build the cat truck.
 
Andrew0580

Andrew0580

Seasoned Expediter
it will be a cat you can only get internatioal to work on i am sure, like my DT466 a nightmare when it breaks down.
 
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Stitches

Seasoned Expediter
Crazynuff said:
Read this article and see if you share my opinion that Navistar doesn't deserve business from O/O's . You might even tell the reps from Navistar at the show they shouldn't expect much business from the expedite industry because according to their James Hebe all O/O's will no longer exist in a few years . Trucking Faces Core Changes, Hebe Says | Transport Topics Online | Trucking, Freight Transportation and Logistics News . The statements by Hebe are not only highly insulting to O/O's but the carriers that use them , implying that carriers pay insufficient rates to allow contractors to survive running legally and that carriers safety departments ignore violations by O/O's .
To make Hebe eat his words O/O's should buy trucks made by PACCAR and Volvo/Mack and not be the fool Hebe plays you for , expecting you to buy a truck he admits will suffer in quality by being built by unskilled Mexican workers . The jobs losses and loss of freight caused by Daimler and Navistar moving to Mexico directly affect you . Don't put money in the pockets of people taking food off your table .
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I couldn't have said it any better.
 
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Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
Stitches said:
I couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, Stitches but unfortunately too many in the industry , particularly the media value revenue from Navistar And Daimler advertising over concerns for American jobs and economy . If OOIDA truly cared about the members they would be the first to loudly voice outrage at Hebe's remarks about O/O's . They won't do do because it might affect their relationship with Navistar marketing . Over the past few years I have my comments quoted in several articles in "Overdrive" and "Truckers News " . I am no stranger to the editors of Randall Reilly . I wrote an editorial to "Overdrive" and the editor prepared it for submission then e-mailed me that "the owners" wouldn't allow it to be published . The American trucking industry is being sold out . Money talks and the deep pockets of Navistar and Daimler are more influential than the needs of American workers . OOIDA protests Mexican truckers . Are American truckers going to bring parts back and forth from Daimler and Navistar plants in Mexico ?
 
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