Can ya forward that up the chop chain very well stated. Acceptance To LOW" "Cherry Picking" are a few names the companies throw around.
Are you an employee?
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Can ya forward that up the chop chain very well stated. Acceptance To LOW" "Cherry Picking" are a few names the companies throw around.
Yes, OVM, I did. Possibly out of the frying pan & into the fire, taking a load to San Francisco, (but only 4 miles DH to the shipper!), and I turned down 2 loads that didn't meet my objectives, lol. I have zero miles for last week, sigh, but I kept expenses to a minimum, sitting in the truck, (cheap meals & free entertainment
) at least.
About the "once in awhile" comment? I just read a great quote: "My mind works like lightning: one brilliant flash, and then it's gone"
) at least.About the "once in awhile" comment? I just read a great quote: "My mind works like lightning: one brilliant flash, and then it's gone"
greg334
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Actually this is exactly on subject with regards to what the company and contractor must continue to do to remain in business.
This idea that we must service the customer means little when it comes to operating costs and profit. The customer will find a way to get things shipped but most of the time the company refuses to eat the profit to service the customer when they set unrealistic prices to get a customer to bite.
Can you imagine if a store owner had custs, which I'm sure he/she does, who complained about the prices.. imagine if owner had said to employee(s), 'um, this cust refuses to pay what my price is, and only wishes to pay *this* much,... so I'll be taking the difference out of your pay.. gotta keep the customer happy ya know'
Wonder how long the employee would've hung around?
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
You know, it's EASY to get customers, and EASY to stay in biz making nice profits, if you can let the custs pay what they'd prefer to pay, and have your employees take the hit.
Seems to me many companies do in fact treat their contractors very much like employees, difference being, they can pay them less (there are laws about the lowest you can pay someone for the number of hours worked), reduce their expenses by charging all the costs over to them (ie insurance, qc), not have to worry about providing a minimum amount of work, pay no employer source deductions, hire people who will supply the equipment and operating costs to serve the biz's custs at the 'contractor's' own expense.. what a deal.. too bad it's not like that for ALL business owners!
My Gawd PJjjjj your starting to sound more like an American every post!! They say there's a cure coming for that...I've got got the same bug and doctors say it's terminal!!!*LOL*
Can you imagine if a store owner had custs, which I'm sure he/she does, who complained about the prices.. imagine if owner had said to employee(s), 'um, this cust refuses to pay what my price is, and only wishes to pay *this* much,... so I'll be taking the difference out of your pay.. gotta keep the customer happy ya know'
Wonder how long the employee would've hung around?
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
You know, it's EASY to get customers, and EASY to stay in biz making nice profits, if you can let the custs pay what they'd prefer to pay, and have your employees take the hit.
Seems to me many companies do in fact treat their contractors very much like employees, difference being, they can pay them less (there are laws about the lowest you can pay someone for the number of hours worked), reduce their expenses by charging all the costs over to them (ie insurance, qc), not have to worry about providing a minimum amount of work, pay no employer source deductions, hire people who will supply the equipment and operating costs to serve the biz's custs at the 'contractor's' own expense.. what a deal.. too bad it's not like that for ALL business owners!
Oh, and I forgot to add.. after telling said employee she/he must bring in the equipment for me to run my biz, and paying for its overhead.. she/he won't mind if I plaster my company name all over it, and hire a bunch more, just in case I happen to have a rush on customers some days, cuz I need all the equipment I can get, at your cost.. I'm gonna try real hard to get lots of biz, but if I happen to not have enough work for y'all, you'll understand of course, and here's a contract for you to sign, saying you won't be able to work for anyone else if I'm slow. But hey, you can feel proud and in charge of your own destiny becuz you are an independent contractor and you're your own boss! Don't call me, I'll call you!
pjjjj... by golly you can see through the fog of deceit. We aren't really independent are we? Just a whole lot of shadow boxing between the carrier and contractor. I am under numerous constraints, so I don't truly feel "independent." But, it's a bargain I can live with for now.
Scuba
Veteran Expediter
That’s not what the IRS says if the driver has zero interest in the truck he is an employee sooner or later the IRS will catch up with people that hire drivers to put in their trucks and call them “contractors”
Hello Hello did you just come up with that by yourself??
I said that for good grief how long. Finaly somebody admits it in public. good now comon lets here the companys name
PalletJack
Expert Expediter
I still think the ans to the emp question is in the 2 links. I am one of the few posters here that believes that an o/o of a single truck is an IC. the drivers for any other truck the o/o might have must be employees because like scuba says, the drivers have nothing at risk if the business fails. Except maybe the cost of the leftover fuel they bought.
What's all the talk about employee anyway. If you have a lease to a company to perform a job as a contractor for a contracted fee you are not an employee. If you don't like the conditions, cancel the lease or don't sign it in the first place. After all we are not indentured servants.
Your right again all we are is a tool for the company and that is it. They could careless about U as a person.
Have U ever been given the feeling when U go to the company for Training or what have U and they have to escourt U around kinda makes U feel like a Criminal dont it.
I think U hit the nail on the head with 20lb sledge hammer.
PalletJack
Expert Expediter
Ice you miss the point. You are not with the company fedex. You and your barfing codriver are employees of the owner of the truck you drive. If you are not happy with the crumbs your owner gives you then you should consider moving up the iceroad to a different igloo. People here always say you can't feed three families on one truck. Maybe in your case they are right.
Let me tell U somthing and the Company whom Im not an employee of nor is the Guy Iam working with who truck Im driving, isnt a FedEX employee either. Well FEDEX want team in the Trucks. So PalletJack go figure that one out.
By the way pallet Jack if I had it my way Id have my own truck and I wouldnt Hesitate to have it on FedEX.
My Reason I Real Like FedEX CC but what I dont like,
Is I have to Cold Call to get a Run.
I keep getting the left Overs as Im not an Owner but a Subcontractor.
If your running a reefer U can Support 3 familys actualy 4 the Company ur doing the work for as well.
So Ur wrong there. Id been doing this for the last 3 years starting in June of 2005.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
Well..... what's keeping you?
As poor as I am, I can go out and still buy a truck on crappy credit, they are cheapppppp right now and so are trailers.
Maybe it is time to put that signature to that line to become a 'real' owner?