Alborada...Look at the date of the post your replying too....one year old...it's just as the ACE program was starting...in the olden days we did a lot of faxing.
Canada Anyone Turned Back For Paperwork Not Being Cleared
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alborada
Seasoned Expediter
thank,s OVM I don't aspect that this is so old but ok let the people have this in casse some body don't know, because the Panther dispatch it is not very helpuful - ceossing the boreder moast of them don't have a idea what happend. Yes I know about this brokers faxses........... we do with my hoby 3 years Canada . Laredo, TX to Brampton, On or From WV to Vankuver , BC , but we like Canada it is very much fun, EH , Eh
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
I'd rather not get an unnecessary person involved - just one more delay in communication . I fax the paperwork to the broker from the shipper and my cell number is on the fax cover sheet . I call the broker to confirm the fax is received and the PARS has cleared . There is no way I'd want a dispatcher in the process .
I'd rather not get an unnecessary person involved - just one more delay in communication . I fax the paperwork to the broker from the shipper and my cell number is on the fax cover sheet . I call the broker to confirm the fax is received and the PARS has cleared . There is no way I'd want a dispatcher in the process .
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
This is a seventeen-month old thread that someone unnecessarily replied to, that brought out-dated and obsolete discussions into the present, that deals with coming into the US from Canada,
No PARS needed. The ACE Electronic Manifest makes all this talk of brokers, PARS and having to sit and wait days (days? really? on an ACE clearance? Really?) at the border for the paperwork to clear, pointless.
This is a seventeen-month old thread that someone unnecessarily replied to, that brought out-dated and obsolete discussions into the present, that deals with coming into the US from Canada,
No PARS needed. The ACE Electronic Manifest makes all this talk of brokers, PARS and having to sit and wait days (days? really? on an ACE clearance? Really?) at the border for the paperwork to clear, pointless.
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
With all due respect Turtle, we at the Fed are still using our paps along with the Ace manifest AND the inbound cargo manifest....the Fed does the faxing after we fax to them but they are still requiring all of the paperwork named above.
With all due respect Turtle, we at the Fed are still using our paps along with the Ace manifest AND the inbound cargo manifest....the Fed does the faxing after we fax to them but they are still requiring all of the paperwork named above.
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
With all due respect, go back and re-read what I wrote. I never said that PAPS, Inbound Manifest, Customs Invoice or any other ACE Electronic Manifest paperwork was no longer required. It is, but you don't use PARS for loads coming into the US from Canada, nor do you fax directly to a broker, which makes all this talk about PARS and brokers pointless.
This is the kind of crap that happens when people respond to old, outdated posts, thereby bumping them up to appear as if they were new threads.
With all due respect, go back and re-read what I wrote. I never said that PAPS, Inbound Manifest, Customs Invoice or any other ACE Electronic Manifest paperwork was no longer required. It is, but you don't use PARS for loads coming into the US from Canada, nor do you fax directly to a broker, which makes all this talk about PARS and brokers pointless.
This is the kind of crap that happens when people respond to old, outdated posts, thereby bumping them up to appear as if they were new threads.
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
I was going on this comment and didn't want to outright say that Pars are not used for coming into the US. While we're on this subject then would you please tell us what you mean by "no Pars needed"?? We're still using those too, going into Canada, of course.
I was going on this comment and didn't want to outright say that Pars are not used for coming into the US. While we're on this subject then would you please tell us what you mean by "no Pars needed"?? We're still using those too, going into Canada, of course.
Turtle said.."No PARS needed." The ACE Electronic Manifest makes all this talk of brokers, PARS and having to sit and wait days (days? really? on an ACE clearance? Really?) at the border for the paperwork to clear, pointless. "
When did Canada discontinue PARS? You did say it...Me thinks you meant PAPS??? Yes ...No?
When did Canada discontinue PARS? You did say it...Me thinks you meant PAPS??? Yes ...No?
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
GGGRRR.... OMG <drops head, places hands on either side of head, pulls hair out of head>
"I was going on this comment and didn't want to outright say that Pars are not used for coming into the US."
Good, that would have been redundant, because that's precisely what I said. Read it, it says this is a 17 month old thread that deals with coming into the US from Canada.
Therefore, no PARS [are] needed [when you bring a load into the US from Canada].
Sheesh. The thread was started, and DIED, 17 months ago when ACE was new and not yet fully implemented. Then, someone, for reasons only they alone can fathom, responded to this thread, and in Jesus-like fashion it rose from the grave to be heavily commented on out of context, and is thoroughly outdated at this time. People jumped in about faxing to the broker, which is irrelevant when talking about loads coming into the US from Canada, which is what this thread deals with. People started talking about PARS, which is equally irrelevant about loads coming into the US from Canada, which is what this thread deals with.
Yes, yes, yes, when you take a load FROM the US into CANADA, you do, yes, yes, yes, have to use PARS stickers and fax stuff to the broker. But this thread isn't about that. It never was, so when people bring it up in this thread, because they didn't bother to read and comprehend what was being discussed, it just confuses things, especially in a 17 month old, outdated thread like this one.
Responding to old, outdated posts to resurrect it is stoopid. It wastes time, and just confuses people. It you want to state something relevant to today, start a new thread rather than lumping onto the tail end of thread that has been rendered irrelevant by time.
GGGRRR.... OMG <drops head, places hands on either side of head, pulls hair out of head>
"I was going on this comment and didn't want to outright say that Pars are not used for coming into the US."
Good, that would have been redundant, because that's precisely what I said. Read it, it says this is a 17 month old thread that deals with coming into the US from Canada.
Therefore, no PARS [are] needed [when you bring a load into the US from Canada].
Sheesh. The thread was started, and DIED, 17 months ago when ACE was new and not yet fully implemented. Then, someone, for reasons only they alone can fathom, responded to this thread, and in Jesus-like fashion it rose from the grave to be heavily commented on out of context, and is thoroughly outdated at this time. People jumped in about faxing to the broker, which is irrelevant when talking about loads coming into the US from Canada, which is what this thread deals with. People started talking about PARS, which is equally irrelevant about loads coming into the US from Canada, which is what this thread deals with.
Yes, yes, yes, when you take a load FROM the US into CANADA, you do, yes, yes, yes, have to use PARS stickers and fax stuff to the broker. But this thread isn't about that. It never was, so when people bring it up in this thread, because they didn't bother to read and comprehend what was being discussed, it just confuses things, especially in a 17 month old, outdated thread like this one.
Responding to old, outdated posts to resurrect it is stoopid. It wastes time, and just confuses people. It you want to state something relevant to today, start a new thread rather than lumping onto the tail end of thread that has been rendered irrelevant by time.
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
Please Mr Turtle have patience with us peons....sheshhhh....The way you typed it and they Me and DD read it was 2 different things... We were the ones confused WHY you said about pars when the thread dealt with loads coming into the U.S. Some say tomatow some say tomawtoe... We all cool???
PS...It was YOUR buddy that resurrected this one from the dead...
PS...It was YOUR buddy that resurrected this one from the dead...
Re: I thought Americans would know about RE: Anyon
Originally Posted by Turtle
GGGRRR.... OMG <drops head, places hands on either side of head, pulls hair out of head>
No need to be rude.
Instead of seeing the inherent comedy in the above, you choose to see rudeness. That's pretty telling, ya know?
Therefore, no PARS [are] needed [when you bring a load into the US from Canada]. That is exactly the point I was trying to make.....
And it's exactly the point that I stated. Thanks for making the point again, though, I guess. <shrug>
PARS STICKERS NEVER WERE NEEDED TO COME BACK INTO THE US FROM CANADA.....THAT STICKER IS CALLED PAPS!
Really? Wow, I never knew that.
Sheesh is right. Next time I'll do as OVM suggests and type it out in big letters, and instead of allowing the reader to make the connections, I'll connect the dots for ya.
Originally Posted by Turtle
GGGRRR.... OMG <drops head, places hands on either side of head, pulls hair out of head>
No need to be rude.
Instead of seeing the inherent comedy in the above, you choose to see rudeness. That's pretty telling, ya know?
Therefore, no PARS [are] needed [when you bring a load into the US from Canada]. That is exactly the point I was trying to make.....
And it's exactly the point that I stated. Thanks for making the point again, though, I guess. <shrug>
PARS STICKERS NEVER WERE NEEDED TO COME BACK INTO THE US FROM CANADA.....THAT STICKER IS CALLED PAPS!
Really? Wow, I never knew that.
SHEESH!!
Sheesh is right. Next time I'll do as OVM suggests and type it out in big letters, and instead of allowing the reader to make the connections, I'll connect the dots for ya.
Please Mr Turtle have patience with us peons....sheshhhh....The way you typed it and they Me and DD read it was 2 different things... We were the ones confused WHY you said about pars when the thread dealt with loads coming into the U.S. Some say tomatow some say tomawtoe... We all cool???
Forgive me for typing within the context of the thread. If you look at my original reply, it was dead on.
Yeah, we're coo, tho.
PS...It was YOUR buddy that resurrected this one from the dead...
She certainly didn't consult me before doing it.
Doggie Daddy
Veteran Expediter
As my cousin Rodney once said,"can't we all just get along?" DD.
Watch it doggie...one more crack and they send you yet another notice of Misconduct! *L*
Is it like having to clean the chalkboards after school??? hehehehe
Jack_Berry
Moderator Emeritus
back on topic....i was not turned away. i was in canada and returning to the "friendly confines" of the usa. the paps sticker and ppwk were not received and i had to go to the broker bldg. then stand in line for customs. then blithely waved thru. bye-bye-don't-let-the-border-hit-you-in-the- bumper. that was 3 hours i will never get back. ALWAYS CALL AND MAKE SURE THE PPWK IS CLEARED.