JohnWC
Veteran Expediter
As long as it isn't Clinton or Trump or Bush or Sanders we might stand a chance
anybody hearing the Clinton lies
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Maybe some history of how the Clinton gang got started and a few shenanigans in between. Where is Jenifer now?
Bill Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxne...0.img.jpg/876/493/1444915843430.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 I never had sex with that.... whoops, wrong spouse.
Not much new revealed in Clinton "testimony", but there are some takeaways to be had from the 11 hrs of BS. Bottom line is that she lied about what happened, knew in advance that there were security issues and ignored the hundreds of requests from the ambassador and his team for more security protection. When the attack happened she and Obama did nothing but invent excuses - after all, Obama was up for re-election and she had her image to protect.
Top 9 New Revelations from the Benghazi Committee Hearings
Top 9 New Revelations from the Benghazi Committee Hearings
operation Green Glow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not looking good for Bush, low pol numbers, slowed donations, their already cutting staff.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
I'm not feeling comfortable about any of them personally.
Have many definite NO VOTES, but no definite YES VOTE.
I hope with time...the one I SHOULD vote for rises to the top, like cream.
Have many definite NO VOTES, but no definite YES VOTE.
I hope with time...the one I SHOULD vote for rises to the top, like cream.
Those "damning new revelations" are a joke, seriously. IF she lied, that's an inherent part of any diplomatic job, and you will defend it vigorously when the lie suits your purpose. Politicians telling the truth at all times is never going to happen, nor would we want it to happen. Particularly with respect to foreign relations, which is an area in which even the most well versed citizen is simply unaware of enough information to make a reasonable judgment.
If the numerous investigations [how many? and how much money spent?] capped with Gowdy's kangaroo court couldn't find anything to charge Clinton with, a reasonable person would conclude that it doesn't exist.
When Republicans learn to attack for the right reasons, [not simply a knee jerk dislike of a person or their position] they might get some better results. And when they can admit they were wrong, [or misinformed - whatever] they might get more respect than ridicule, outside of the echo chambers [like Breitbart].
There's no "IF" about whether or not she lied. Clinton lied about multiple things on several occasions, not the least of which was the preposterous tale about the infamous video she told to the American people and the families of her four dead Benghazi diplomatic staff members - but that's OK by you, if it suits the political purposes of her and Obama. "Hillary lied and people died"...makes a nice sound byte. However, to suggest that lying is "an inherent part of any diplomatic job" is one of the most pathetically ignorant statements ever made. No doubt other nations around the world - allies and enemies alike - would relish dealing with an American SECSTATE whose word is worthless and whose integrity is nonexistent. Granted, these particular statements don't make her criminally liable but they greatly contribute to the case being made that she is totally untrustworthy, unqualified for the position she held, incompetent in dealing with a major crisis and not fit to serve as POTUS.
When evaluated from your perspective the Watergate hearings were a waste of time, Nixon should have never resigned and his underlings should have never gone to jail since the lies they told and the coverup in which they engaged "suited their purpose". After all, it was all about the 3d rate burglary of a political party office during a re-election campaign and no lives were lost.
In the Benghazi situation four people died due to Hillary Clinton's incompetence, and her coverup involved protecting her image and that of her boss - Obama - who was in the midst of a re-election campaign. But like the "private" Nixon tapes which revealed the incriminating evidence that sunk Nixon, Clinton's classified and government related emails and the illegal private server on which she kept them should be the criminal activity that would result in her prosecution - if the FBI and the Obama justice department (not Gowdy's committee, which doesn't have prosecutorial authority) should decide to do so. No one's holding their breath waiting for that to happen.
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First, any diplomat who told the truth to everyone all the time would have a life span measured in minutes.
Second, her answers to the questions didn't sound preposterous to me, or to any of the more well informed [and impartial] observers who commented on the hearing.
It was another Republican witch hunt, just like the Planned Parenthood hearing, where they are 'investigating' something that's been investigated 17 ways from Sunday already. When they find nothing new or different, you still defend it. Because: blind ideology.
Even women [like me] who don't support HRC can see the disrespect for women evidenced in this hearing and in the one over Planned Parenthood, and it isn't doing much for the conservative Republican 'brand'. [Except among misogynist men.]
Second, her answers to the questions didn't sound preposterous to me, or to any of the more well informed [and impartial] observers who commented on the hearing.
It was another Republican witch hunt, just like the Planned Parenthood hearing, where they are 'investigating' something that's been investigated 17 ways from Sunday already. When they find nothing new or different, you still defend it. Because: blind ideology.
Even women [like me] who don't support HRC can see the disrespect for women evidenced in this hearing and in the one over Planned Parenthood, and it isn't doing much for the conservative Republican 'brand'. [Except among misogynist men.]
She "knew the attack was coming, and did nothing"- can you cite anything that verifies that?
I've read that the State Dept knew it was dangerous & unstable, and were warned that an attack was likely, but that could describe every square inch of Libya, and many of the surrounding countries, too. It sounds like a 'damned if you do/damned if you don't' decision, which is what intelligence usually boils down to, isn't it?
Hindsight is 20/20, innit? Easy for you to say "you don't" do the things that you, personally, don't ever have to do. And that "kill them all, let God [or whoever] sort it out" attitude has a lot to do with why ISIS is so attractive to young people who live in the Middle East, Dr Frankenstein.
No it sounds like a very good decision to provide more security.
I'm not sure I would call it a witch hunt. It appears that way at times but I am mindful these hearings keep coming because of the slow dribble of her emails being released. They should have had them all at once. The whole email and server debacle just stinks to high heaven. Neither is one you would expect from a presidential candidate.
It is also clear that she lied and was quite deceptive through the whole process.
Republicans have made a political circus out of it, but that doesn't change the fact she is a proven liar and deceptive at every turn.
It is also clear that she lied and was quite deceptive through the whole process.
Republicans have made a political circus out of it, but that doesn't change the fact she is a proven liar and deceptive at every turn.