There's something about this thread that I, for one, find really bothersome. The fact that Poorboy wants to get rid of Obama because his administration (like previous ones) is "spending tax payers money on refurbishing mosques over seas" in NO WAY justifies a judgemental attack declaring him "reckless and irresponsible and not to be trusted". That's just a chicken-s*** cheap shot, totally without merit or justification.
No, it's absolutely with merit. He's claiming a falsehood, since the Obama administration is not, in fact, spending taxpayer money on refurbishing mosques overseas. Previous administrations didn't do it, either. It was and in Congress that is doing it. The State Department is doing it, but under the direction of Congress. The fact that Pooboy wants to get rid of Obama is irrelevant. I want to get rid of him, too. But the simple fact is that he's purposely spreading lies and falsehoods for his own agenda. He posts things without checking the validity, which is both reckless and irresponsible. Because a number of his posts, including this one, have turned out to be lies and misinformation, his posts are not trustworthy.
To make it worse, the sycophants come out of the woodwork and make a lame attempt to impugn his past career (about which they know nothing) to further malign his character and integrity.
He's the one who first used his career to establish character and integrity, and continues to do so. Yet his career and his postings here are irreconcilable, which goes directly to character and integrity. One who has integrity in one facet of their lives will have the same integrity in all facets of their life, and if one does not, then they have neither integrity or high character.
In my opinion, that type of smarmy, condescending name-calling accomplishes nothing except to expose the shallowness of the accusers.
Excellent spin, but wrong. When someone purports to be of high integrity and character, yet their postings time after time belie that claim, to call them on it is hardly shallow. It's an honest observation.
Just some points to support my thoughts:
- The "Before it's News" website states clearly that they let "anyone write about most anything". They're not claiming to post the gospel.
Irrelevant. What some other site does is irrelevant to what happens here. Nonetheless, "news" by definition is a report of a recent event, intelligence, information, i.e., something
known, and by implication
known to be true, rather than something fabricated or intentionally misleading. "Before it's News" misrepresents itself.
Look at the sentence: "...Spending Tax Payers Money on Refurbishing Mosques Over Seas". This does not imply that US taxpayer dollars are paying for the entire refurbishment of mosques. If the statement read "...TO refurbish mosques" the inference might be different.
That's incorrect. The use of "on" versus "to" has nothing to do with the implication of the degree (partial or entire) of the taxpayer's money that is being spent. The difference between "on refurbishing" and "to refurbish" is purely a semantical one, as both are prepositional phrases that mean precisely the same thing.
Prepositional phrases can be removed from a sentence and the sentence will still retail its primary meaning. For example:
"Obumma and His Administration are Spending Tax Payers Money on Refurbishing Mosques Over Seas."
"Obumma and His Administration are Spending Tax Payers Money."
Both are complete sentences (albeit both with appalling grammar). The first sentence has a qualifier that further explains the subject, to tell us how that money is being spent. The manner in which the qualifier is phrased is irrelevant, since it goes directly to the noun phrase and the verb phrase.
"Obumma and His Administration" is the noun, and "Tax Payers Money" is the noun compliment, with "Tax Payers" being the adjective to the "Money" noun. And "are Spending" being the verb phrase.
The "on Refurbishing Mosques Over Seas" is purely a prepositional phrase that can be completely removed from the sentence, and is a qualifier preposition phrase that links to the subject of the sentence to give it a clear (or clearer) context and meaning.
"Obumma and His Administration are Spending Tax Payers Money" is a standalone sentence, and any prepositional phrase that one might add will be the context of the subject. Whether that prepositional phrase is "to refurbish" or "on refurbishing" is
literally semantical, as both phrases refer to the subject of who is spending who's money, and in no way refers to the degree of the tax payer's money that is being spent.
We might remind ourselves that the doctrine separating church and state keeps us from spending taxpayer money on religious buildings at home. According to US code, we're not supposed to be spending taxpayer dollars on religious projects abroad, either.
The Ambassadors Fund doesn't spend taxpayer dollars on religious projects, but rather on cultural projects.
"But Section 205.1(d) of title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations prohibits USAID funds from being used for the rehabilitation of structures to the extent that those structures are used for "inherently religious activities." It is impossible to separate religion from a mosque; any such projects will necessarily support Islam."
Got that one from a conservative wb site, I'll bet. You might want to read the
actual law, rather than rely on someone's biased interpretation and pure opinion (
It is impossible to separate religion from a mosque; any such projects will necessarily support Islam.) on the matter.
If it is impossible to separate religion from a mosque, then it is also impossible to separate religion from a Catholic church or a Buddhist temple. It's not just mosques that are being refurbished using US taxpayer dollars. Over the years there have been quite a few more catholic churches than mosques to receive refurbishment aid, actually.
Why aren't these same conservatives all up in arms over this?
Personally, I think it's a very blurry line getting crossed when a building that is
currently and actively being used primarily for religious purposes is being refurbished using US taxpayer dollars, regardless of the type of religion. The refurbishments and restorations aren't being done specifically to promote religious activities, but are done specifically for the cultural and historical significance. The vast majority of projects that the Ambassadors Fund supports are not religious in nature at all. Still, I think that for active religious buildings, it should be up to people who worship there, or the governments in those locations, to foot the entire bill for restorations and refurbishments.
This whole thing, the Ambassadors Fund, is purely political to help foster goodwill and foreign policy objectives. It's not all that unlike your local congressman or senator who tries to bring projects home. These US Ambassadors to foreign countries submit candidate project for aid to the State Department, which in turn puts the Ambassador, and thus the State Department and the US as a whole, in a more favorable light with the people in those countries.
So if you want to complain about some of the aid going to help refurbish a mosque, you have to complain just as loudly for some of the aid going to any and all other religious buildings. Otherwise, you're just hypocritical.
So even though Obama's administration isn't the only one guilty of misappropriation of taxpayer funds, the point of the post isn't entirely off target; hardly an example of recklessness, irresponsibility and untrustworthiness. After all, this administration was supposed to usher in a new era of transparency and integrity.
It's Congress that created this Fund, not an administration, and certainly not Obama's administration.
"So even though Obama's administration isn't the only one guilty of misappropriation of taxpayer funds," I like how you just slipped that in there as if it was true, and then used it to base your conclusion. Excellent. Nicely done.
The fact is, the story from "Before it's News" is misleading and untrue in substance, even on a superficial scale, and a blatant lie to incite the anger of others on a substantial scale. Poorboy read it and believed it, and without checking any of the facts, whole remaining entirely ignorant of the "why" of the funding, he blindly and recklessly propagated the misinformation, which is in and of itself an irresponsible act. And since he has a history of disseminating information that is later found to be untrue, that makes him untrustworthy. So when you say that his post here is
"hardly an example of recklessness, irresponsibility and untrustworthiness," it is actually a conclusive and definitive example of it.
As an afterthought, all the good self-proclaimed Christians out there might keep in mind the message from the Good Book in Matthew 7.
Ironic isn't it that that is the one message that good self-proclaimed Christians are the least likely to practice?
If he passed, it's only because we're playing musical chairs with the same number of chairs as people.