Better to see school children dead than to sign into law a sensible bill.
NRA-ILA | Missouri Governor Vetoes NRA-Backed Pro-Gun Bill
NRA-ILA | Missouri Governor Vetoes NRA-Backed Pro-Gun Bill
Another dumber than dirt demoncrat
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“Arming teachers will not make our schools safer,” Governor Nixon said. “I have supported and will continue to support the use of duly authorized law enforcement officers employed as school resource officers, but I cannot condone putting firearms in the hands of educators who should be focused on teaching our kids.”
What is so wrong with that?
Did you not read the part that said that any educator volunteering would have to complete the POST certification to become a Missouri certified police officer or as Governor Idiot calls them "duly authorized law enforcement officers"? One of the things so wrong with that is the acreage of many current campuses. The police officer may be at the far opposite corner of the campus and literally be 5-10 minutes away from the active shooter. One or several of the potentially many volunteer educators, fully trained, tested and sworn in as a Missouri police officer, may be in the room next door to an active shooter, able to respond many minutes sooner and many dead students fewer.
The better questions are how can anyone with any brain and common sense question more security at schools as opposed to less and how can any elected official choose political hatred of guns over student safety?
The better questions are how can anyone with any brain and common sense question more security at schools as opposed to less and how can any elected official choose political hatred of guns over student safety?
You also have to PAY that officer, it would require hiring several officers, for each school, paying them, paying benefits etc etc. Then, as Leo said, distance is a problem. Do you think that a "bad guy" would know that an officer was in the lunch room and go to the library to do his evil deeds?
The governor was wrong.
The governor was wrong.
Did younot read the part where Gov. Nixon has, and continues to support [armed] officers employed as school resource officers? If so, how do you justify the claim that Nixon chose "political hatred of guns over student safety"? Why is any opposition to anything involving guns automatically designated "hatred"? [Hint": knee jerk response]
Did it not occur to you that Nixon's desire is to ensure that teachers teach, and not be less effective at it by spreading their focus in other directions? I'm not saying that is his position, but it seems a reasonable one: teachers teach, and security officers do a different job, and one person should not be doing both at the same time.
The comment about the acreage of current campuses hardly seems relevant when the schools are K-12, which hardly have the acreage of college campuses. Not even the high school I attended, which was the 3rd largest in the US [at the time] was all that big.
Like our border problem, I think a better response would be to attempt to keep the threats from getting inside, as opposed to neutralizing them after they are in.
yet again another democrat thinks that PEOPLE are either to stupid or incapable of concentrating on teaching unless the need arises to protect the student they are charged with.. They only thing dems think their constituents are smart enough to do, is vote them in and let them dictate to them how and what they should have or need to survive!!!
I guess when there is no logical response, a silly one is warranted...
It's just as logical, and no more silly than arming teachers. Administrators and teachers would be taking on significant responsibility, not to mention an insane amount of potential liabilities, that are beyond the expertise, knowledge-base, experience, and professional capabilities of most educators. Arming teachers crosses the line of self-protection and protection of one’s family into a while 'nuther level of tasking educators and school support staff to provide public safety and law enforcement functions for hundreds or thousands of individuals in a school.
Suggesting that by providing teachers and other school staff with10, 40, or even 60 hours of firearms training on firing, handling, and holstering a gun somehow makes a non-law enforcement professional suddenly qualified to provide public safety services is a joke. It's a disaster waiting to happen. The whole notion is absurd.
Suggesting that by providing teachers and other school staff with10, 40, or even 60 hours of firearms training on firing, handling, and holstering a gun somehow makes a non-law enforcement professional suddenly qualified to provide public safety services is a joke. It's a disaster waiting to happen. The whole notion is absurd.
What is the solution then? You won't be able to hire enough cops, you don't want trained staff, what is your solution?
I don't remember school shootings being a concern until the last 15 or 20 years. A breakdown in moral and social order produces all kinds of unanticipated problems. There is no quick fix for the societal mess we have in the US. Too often nowadays, a teenager with hurt feelings reaches for a gun. Somewhere in all of this is a misplaced and over-inflated sense of self among our youngsters.
What Aristotle said. Put dodge ball back in school and quit trying to artificially create winners, so that kids can cope with losing and not being special. Teach morals, right from wrong, respect, and demand acceptable behavior. There is no quick fix, and nothing, but even armed teachers, can prevent a determined someone from doing harm.
Where to start and why to bother. Yes, you Nixonians are assuredly correct. It's better to have only one officer on campus and many dead students than to have several anonymous people trained and prepared in case of need. I do not approve of dead innocent children. I do not approve of refusing proper and sensible solutions. It's ok if you disagree. It's your privilege to be wrong.
Did you bother to read the article and see that the governor's name is Nixon? Nixonians seems as good a way as any to refer to those supporting his side. I guess instead of Nixonians it could be governorites.