And now the Athlete of the Decade
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chefdennis
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Professional sports is nothing more then entertainment, no different then goin to the movies...and the athletes of today are no different then the actors in those movies...baseball has had scandels and cheaters forever and always will...as the saying goes: "if you ain't cheatin, you any tryin"....as for hgh, and steroids, who cares......and if you think it sets a "bad example for kids.....too late, we were taking them when i played ball in high school.....and they still do.....like war, when man is in competetion, there will be cheater....lol..
Sorry to see him die but a "quality" person he was not!!! Of course, neither is Tiger Woods, or, the scummy women he has been playing with. Slime balls one and all!!
Jack_Berry
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LOL! And we know that how? Because Pete "Mr. Integrity" Rose said so? OOO KKaaayyyyy...
jaminjim
Veteran Expediter
It meant only dodgers fans have that much disdain for Rose. Primarily because he was a major component of THE Big Red Machine, and the reds pounded the dodgers on more than one occasion, and won the division. It was a comment made in jest.
Right after that anoucement another came out right behind it about his new book.
My Best 18 Ho's by Tiger Woods
My Best 18 Ho's by Tiger Woods
And you think college sports isn't? College sports is even more corrupt than professional sports. The movie "Blue Chips" didn't even scratch the surface.
Regarding Chris Henry:
Those who knew Chris Henry will tell you differently. He was devoted to his fiancé and his kids, and by all accounts had finally turned his life around. My advice, in general, would be that once you have your life in perfect order, once you become perfect in every way, it is then and only then where you can make judgments as to the quality of a person you have never met.
Regarding how we know who Pete Rose bet on...
We know it because the betting slips showed exactly who he was betting on, and did so every time he placed a bet. Not so much as a single slip every had Rose betting against the Reds.
"Those who knew Chris Henry will tell you differently. He was devoted to his fiancé and his kids, and by all accounts had finally turned his life around. My advice, in general, would be that once you have your life in perfect order, once you become perfect in every way, it is then and only then where you can make judgments as to the quality of a person you have never met."
Arrests for drugs, drunk driving and weapons charges,at least that is what the news was reporting. Devoted to he fiance? Was this not a domestic violence incident? According to the reports I heard it was not the first.
If my info is wrong I am sorry I threw stones, I would have been wrong to do so in that case. If the stories are correct, then so be it.
Arrests for drugs, drunk driving and weapons charges,at least that is what the news was reporting. Devoted to he fiance? Was this not a domestic violence incident? According to the reports I heard it was not the first.
If my info is wrong I am sorry I threw stones, I would have been wrong to do so in that case. If the stories are correct, then so be it.
Yes, arrests for drugs, drunk driving and weapons charges, plus being in a motel room and drinking with underage girls. But, by all accounts (except yours) he had left that life behind him and was well on his way to turning his life around.
"Devoted to he fiance?"
Yes. He never cheated on her.
"Was this not a domestic violence incident? According to the reports I heard it was not the first"
Where are the news reports of Chris Henry being charged with anything remotely resembling domestic violence? For that matter, show me a news story where his death was reported as domestic violence. You've got the 911 call where a woman reported Henry "beating on the back of this truck window...I don't know if he's trying to break in or something. It just looks crazy. It's a girl driving it." Then there's the second 911 call that reported Henry lying in the middle of the road "definitely" unconscious.
This is where the assumption of the situation, called a domestic dispute by some, comes in to play. Tell me where, in any of the stories related to Henry in this matter, had someone reported it as a case of domestic violence. You can't, because it hasn't been classified as as a domestic dispute or domestic violence. The only people who are reporting it as a domestic anything are bloggers spewing forth their own uninformed opinions.
I guess it's okay to assume since Henry had been in trouble before with the law that he was probably trying to hurt his fiancé. Yet, it's ignoring the fact that Henry had changed his ways, not to mention there is no report, ever, of him hurting her in the past.
He had spent the last two years of his life getting his life together, growing up, maturing.
Several months before Henry's death, Marvin Lewis stated, "He worked through adversity and came out of it to be a beacon of hope for other people."
At the same time, Carson Palmer said of Henry, "He's changed his life around. He ran into some trouble, made some bad decisions, and realized that. He's sorry for them, apologized for them, and has done everything he can to make himself a better person. I'm just proud of him."
What if Henry wanted to be inside the truck to talk? What a concept. Actually speaking with his fiancé about their disagreement. Has anyone every been locked out of their house before, let's say, by a family member? What do you do? Just sit there and wait, or do you bang on the door or ring the doorbell multiple times until that person finally opens the door, or maybe break in a window?
The real problem is, I know someone, very well, who knows Loleini Tonga, very well, and knew Chris Henry, very well. What hasn't come out yet, but probably will, is that Loleini Tonga herself has quite a history of domestic disputes and domestic violence with nearly every boyfriend she's ever had, with everyone of them being a case of she being the one to initiate it. She's got a drinking problem for the ages, and she's apparently a really mean drunk. I wouldn't be surprised if homicide charges are filed against her.
"Devoted to he fiance?"
Yes. He never cheated on her.
"Was this not a domestic violence incident? According to the reports I heard it was not the first"
Where are the news reports of Chris Henry being charged with anything remotely resembling domestic violence? For that matter, show me a news story where his death was reported as domestic violence. You've got the 911 call where a woman reported Henry "beating on the back of this truck window...I don't know if he's trying to break in or something. It just looks crazy. It's a girl driving it." Then there's the second 911 call that reported Henry lying in the middle of the road "definitely" unconscious.
This is where the assumption of the situation, called a domestic dispute by some, comes in to play. Tell me where, in any of the stories related to Henry in this matter, had someone reported it as a case of domestic violence. You can't, because it hasn't been classified as as a domestic dispute or domestic violence. The only people who are reporting it as a domestic anything are bloggers spewing forth their own uninformed opinions.
I guess it's okay to assume since Henry had been in trouble before with the law that he was probably trying to hurt his fiancé. Yet, it's ignoring the fact that Henry had changed his ways, not to mention there is no report, ever, of him hurting her in the past.
He had spent the last two years of his life getting his life together, growing up, maturing.
Several months before Henry's death, Marvin Lewis stated, "He worked through adversity and came out of it to be a beacon of hope for other people."
At the same time, Carson Palmer said of Henry, "He's changed his life around. He ran into some trouble, made some bad decisions, and realized that. He's sorry for them, apologized for them, and has done everything he can to make himself a better person. I'm just proud of him."
What if Henry wanted to be inside the truck to talk? What a concept. Actually speaking with his fiancé about their disagreement. Has anyone every been locked out of their house before, let's say, by a family member? What do you do? Just sit there and wait, or do you bang on the door or ring the doorbell multiple times until that person finally opens the door, or maybe break in a window?
The real problem is, I know someone, very well, who knows Loleini Tonga, very well, and knew Chris Henry, very well. What hasn't come out yet, but probably will, is that Loleini Tonga herself has quite a history of domestic disputes and domestic violence with nearly every boyfriend she's ever had, with everyone of them being a case of she being the one to initiate it. She's got a drinking problem for the ages, and she's apparently a really mean drunk. I wouldn't be surprised if homicide charges are filed against her.
As I said, if I heard wrong, or the reports are wrong, I am sorry for speaking on what I heard. It would be wrong. As to prior reputation, that is how it is and always has been. That is why they used to teach about having character from day one. They used teach about things going on your record and staying there.
I am a bit amazed at some of the scum bags in pro sports making millions and getting away with major crimes for no other reason than they play pro sports. Not saying that this is what happened in this case, although, if he was convicted on weapons, drug and drunk driving charges he should have done time, period, no matter if you play pro ball or not.
I do believe that if all pro sports flat out refused to ever employ any player with a felony conviction that crimes rates in general would go down. All those little wanna be's would watch their "P's and Q's" a bit more if they thought that they would not get away with stuff.
I am a bit amazed at some of the scum bags in pro sports making millions and getting away with major crimes for no other reason than they play pro sports. Not saying that this is what happened in this case, although, if he was convicted on weapons, drug and drunk driving charges he should have done time, period, no matter if you play pro ball or not.
I do believe that if all pro sports flat out refused to ever employ any player with a felony conviction that crimes rates in general would go down. All those little wanna be's would watch their "P's and Q's" a bit more if they thought that they would not get away with stuff.
Just for the record, he really never got a pass for his crimes. No unusually light sentences or anything like that. A couple of his arrests ended up in him being found not guilty, but all the others he pleaded guilty to avoid jail time (or to lessen jail time in one case where 88 days of a 90 day jail term was suspended). The weapons charges in Orlando were, if anything, piled on because he was a professional athlete. He pled guilty to concealment of a firearm, and to aggravated assault with a firearm, even though the firearm was actually concealed during the assault and it was never used to assault anyone.
He was a bad boy, to be sure. A very troubled young man who was angry at the world. But over the last two years people had noted he was a very different man, soft spoken, unassuming, shy, and without the attitude of swagger that he previously demonstrated.
But had he turned his life a full 180 degrees? Probably not. But at least he was making a genuine effort. We're all a work in progress. I know I'm still workin' on it, anyway.
He was a bad boy, to be sure. A very troubled young man who was angry at the world. But over the last two years people had noted he was a very different man, soft spoken, unassuming, shy, and without the attitude of swagger that he previously demonstrated.
But had he turned his life a full 180 degrees? Probably not. But at least he was making a genuine effort. We're all a work in progress. I know I'm still workin' on it, anyway.
We are all working on living a better life, or at least we should be. Once you lose your good reputation it is always hard to get it back and that is how it should be. I get tired of the "angry young man" excuse. Most young men in this country, independent of race, color, ethnic background or religion, no matter how hard they have it, do ok. If it were otherwise our crime rate would be much higher than it is now.