An 8 year Old and Botox

EnglishLady · May 12, 2011

Saw this on the news this afternoon .....

An "aspiring Beauty Pageant Queen" 8 year old Britney Campbell is being given Botox injections by her mother.

Apparently Britney saw her mother having Botox injections and told her mother she wanted them too - her mother agreed and gives her up to 5 injections around her face.

My questions to you .....

Is this way over the top?

Is this mother trying to re-live her own youth through her child?

Ragman · May 12, 2011

EnglishLady said:
Saw this on the news this afternoon .....

An "aspiring Beauty Pageant Queen" 8 year old Britney Campbell is being given Botox injections by her mother.

Apparently Britney saw her mother having Botox injections and told her mother she wanted them too - her mother agreed and gives her up to 5 injections around her face.

My questions to you .....

Is this way over the top?

Is this mother trying to re-live her own youth through her child?

It's beyond over the top. It is absurd.!

Turtle · May 12, 2011

Sometimes life just gets ridiculous. This is one of those times.

I give my girl, 8, Botox for pageant | The Sun |Woman

chefdennis · May 12, 2011

this is one more of the crazy things these wack job "Pageant" moms do....anyone remember Jon Bonet Ramsey!?!?

EnglishLady · May 12, 2011

Turtle said:
Sometimes life just gets ridiculous. This is one of those times.

I give my girl, 8, Botox for pageant | The Sun |Woman

This line says it all IMO.....

"The beauty-pageant obsessed single mum ......"

Turtle · May 12, 2011

EnglishLady said:
This line says it all IMO.....

"The beauty-pageant obsessed single mum ......"

"Worryingly, Britney - whose research scientist dad died four years ago aged 83 - regards the injections and waxing as part of normal life."

That one says a lot, too. Clearly, this mum's neurons aren't firing in the proper order, and haven't been for quite some time. All decisions she's made after "I do" are highly suspect.

scottm4211 · May 12, 2011

Ever notice that beauty pageant moms are ummm fat?

chefdennis · May 12, 2011

Big boned!!!! :d

LisaLouHoo · May 12, 2011

Ummm...where is Child Protective Services in all this? And why don't these Botox fans have a concern of the long term effects of injecting botulism into their faces?!?! No one knows what it will do in 20, 30 years...Alzheimer's? Tumors of the face, sinuses, brain?!?! Oh wait, maybe a brain tumor might be an advantage for these people.

I cannot imagine someone thinking Botox is okay for their kid...the kid will look like LaToya Jackson and Joan Rivers were morphed in some strange science experiment by the time she is 12.

We are meant to grow old. We were made this way for a reason. We are meant to wrinkle and go gray and sag here and there. Our necks and backs get stiff, our knees make weird noises. That's all good. I embrace every silver hair that shows up on my head (though I do get rid of the ones on my face, LOL). So many people never live to see it blossom. Yeah, that's what that ridge in my brow is. A blossom.

Geez, I am so livid right now. Poor child! Can't be a child...

LDB · May 12, 2011

Can we say child abuse and removal from the unfit mother as well as requiring her to tie her tubes so she can't create and abuse another child? We should.

Turtle · May 12, 2011

LisaLouHoo said:
Ummm...where is Child Protective Services in all this?

Some outside governmental organization telling a parent how to raise her child? Considering the abuses that Child Protective Services have engaged in over the years, it's best they stay out of it, I think. You discipline your child in a manner that someone who doesn't even know you disagrees with, like swatting your kid in the butt a the grocery store, and you could lose your child. Where does it end? What constitutes an unfit parent? Does a parent who indoctrinates their child about the KKK fit that criteria? How about one that indoctrinates them about religion? Or racism? What about feeding your kids unhealthy foods and letting them get fat? Or letting them go to bed whenever they want to? Giving Botox to a child, while just butt-stoopid, isn't illegal.

I cannot imagine someone thinking Botox is okay for their kid...the kid will look like LaToya Jackson and Joan Rivers were morphed in some strange science experiment by the time she is 12.

I can imagine it, don't agree with it, but I can imagine it. This parent wants her child, expects her child, to be a superstar when she is a teenager. Expects her to be the next Britney, Christina or Justin Bieber. Other parents do the same types of things in forcing their kids to play sports, including giving their kids steroids as young teenagers.

The problem with this parent, and this kid, is that the kid ain't all that "superstar" cute to begin with, and there's not enough plastic surgery that will fix that.

We are meant to grow old. We were made this way for a reason. We are meant to wrinkle and go gray and sag here and there. Our necks and backs get stiff, our knees make weird noises. That's all good. I embrace every silver hair that shows up on my head (though I do get rid of the ones on my face, LOL). So many people never live to see it blossom. Yeah, that's what that ridge in my brow is. A blossom.

Yup. As a friend of mine says, having plastic surgery is like burning old photographs.

Turtle · May 12, 2011

LDB said:
Can we say child abuse and removal from the unfit mother as well as requiring her to tie her tubes so she can't create and abuse another child? We should.

Who gets to decide what is abuse, tho? What if we say that you abused your child? Are you OK with that? If you say you didn't abuse your child, but enough people, or the right people, say you did, then you did. Now what?

I still remember having to go out back and cutting a switch from a tree so my father could slap my butt repeatedly with it. He said it hurt him more than it did me, but to this day I don't believe him. In his defense, I learned a valuable lesson. But it's a lesson that today would see me taken from my parents and my dad thrown in jail. Who gets to decide these things? I vote the parent, and no one else.

EnglishLady · May 12, 2011

Turtle said:
Who gets to decide what is abuse, tho? What if we say that you abused your child? Are you OK with that? If you say you didn't abuse your child, but enough people, or the right people, say you did, then you did. Now what?

I still remember having to go out back and cutting a switch from a tree so my father could slap my butt repeatedly with it. He said it hurt him more than it did me, but to this day I don't believe him. In his defense, I learned a valuable lesson. But it's a lesson that today would see me taken from my parents and my dad thrown in jail. Who gets to decide these things? I vote the parent, and no one else.

Sorry Mr Turtle, but I do not see that as the same as is happening here.

Your dad was trying to teach you a lesson, what is this mother teaching her daughter?

Turtle · May 12, 2011

EnglishLady said:
Sorry Mr Turtle, but I do not see that as the same as is happening here.

Your dad was trying to teach you a lesson, what is this mother teaching her daughter?

If you take this to its logical conclusion, it is the same thing, though. My dad was teaching me a lesson, to make be a better person later in life. This mother, in her own way, is doing the same thing. If you think beating a kid with a switch is deplorable and unconscionable, then my dad should have had charges files against him for child endangerment, assault and mental cruelty. If you agree with what he did, then it's OK. The same thing applies with this mother. Just because you don't agree with what she is doing doesn't make her an unfit mother. There is a strong argument that can be made that in this current time in our culture that looking good matters, and if you look good then you will have a better life. Tall, thin and beautiful will get you further in today's culture than short, fat and ugly will, generally speaking. Not everyone agrees with that, but it's there just the same.

This kid is being conditioned to seek instant gratification and acceptance for her superficiality, so instead of becoming a superstar actress or singer, I think this kid is far more likely to end up twirling on a pole. That doesn't make mummy an unfit parent, either. It's just not how I'd do it. But because I don't agree with how she's doing things, I don't think I have the right to dictate to her how she should, or take her kid away from her because she refuses to yield to my wishes about her child. Do unto others is my motto, and I certainly wouldn't want someone else telling me what to do in that regard.

EnglishLady · May 12, 2011

Turtle said:
If you take this to its logical conclusion, it is the same thing, though. My dad was teaching me a lesson, to make be a better person later in life. This mother, in her own way, is doing the same thing. If you think beating a kid with a switch is deplorable and unconscionable, then my dad should have had charges files against him for child endangerment, assault and mental cruelty. If you agree with what he did, then it's OK. The same thing applies with this mother. Just because you don't agree with what she is doing doesn't make her an unfit mother. There is a strong argument that can be made that in this current time in our culture that looking good matters, and if you look good then you will have a better life. Tall, thin and beautiful will get you further in today's culture than short, fat and ugly will, generally speaking. Not everyone agrees with that, but it's there just the same.

This kid is being conditioned to seek instant gratification and acceptance for her superficiality, so instead of becoming a superstar actress or singer, I think this kid is far more likely to end up twirling on a pole. That doesn't make mummy an unfit parent, either. It's just not how I'd do it. But because I don't agree with how she's doing things, I don't think I have the right to dictate to her how she should, or take her kid away from her because she refuses to yield to my wishes about her child. Do unto others is my motto, and I certainly wouldn't want someone else telling me what to do in that regard.

Good post, can't really argue with it ......

We live in a weird world nowadays

Ragman · May 12, 2011

EnglishLady · May 12, 2011

Ragman said:

ROFL .... where do you get all these pics LOL

Carry on the good work

Turtle · May 12, 2011

EnglishLady said:
Good post, can't really argue with it ......

We live in a weird world nowadays

Like I said, sometimes life just gets ridiculous. This is one of those times.

What I find most interesting in all of this is how quickly people who don't know the mother or the child are to start calling her an unfit mother, asking where child protective services are in all this, and how she should lose her child and never be allowed to have another one. Not just here in this thread, but mainly from some of the comments on this story all over the Web.

It's more my own social commentary. Why do people think they have an authoritarian right to get all up in other people's business and tell them what to do, what to think, and how to live?

In most cases, I think if the situation gets reversed, these same people would scream like crazy about their rights being taken away.

Sometimes life just gets ridiculous. This is one of those times.

It reminds me of the story I read yesterday where two ladies were on a flight, and had a layover in Dallas and were not allowed to board the connecting flight because they were "too fat to fly". Sometimes life just gets ridiculous. This is just one more of those times.

layoutshooter · May 13, 2011

I think it would be a "sick" person that would do this to a child. I also think that unless it truly affects the health of that child, it is NONE of my business. I could not IMAGINE teaching my kids that "looks" are more important that substance in there lives. Far too many people look at life that way.

scottm4211 · May 13, 2011

layoutshooter said:
I think it would be a "sick" person that would do this to a child. I also think that unless it truly affects the health of that child, it is NONE of my business. I could not IMAGINE teaching my kids that "looks" are more important that substance in there lives. Far too many people look at life that way.

I would think that injecting botulism into a child's face falls on the side of harmful, but I did drop out of med school