ALS ICE Bucket Challenge

xiggi

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Maybe this will help people understand the reason for the ice bucket challenge.

Being drenched in super cold water momentarily affects the nerves like als does. My understanding is that is how the idea got started so there is actually a reason for it being what it is.

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BobWolf

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I want to challenge all the shippers and freight brokers to pay a realistic rate, somewhere around $2.00 per mile for a van and $4.00 mile for a strait truck to the owner operator with a 5% increase for every $0.25 at the pump.
Then we will be making decent money and making donations wont be all that much of a challenge...

Bob Wolf
 

mjmsprt40

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Owner/Operator
I want to challenge all the shippers and freight brokers to pay a realistic rate, somewhere around $2.00 per mile for a van and $4.00 mile for a strait truck to the owner operator with a 5% increase for every $0.25 at the pump.
Then we will be making decent money and making donations wont be all that much of a challenge...

Bob Wolf

Oh, man-- if I could get $2.00 a loaded mile I would be in hog heaven right now. Imagine having enough behind you that the next breakdown isn't a catastrophe! I might actually consider upgrading to a Sprinter or one of the Sprinter-like vehicles.
 

mjmsprt40

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On second thought, the item I had posted here seems to be somewhat less than reliable. Maybe other sources.

In any case, drought in California makes doing an ice-bucket challenge there look like a really bad idea
 
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skyraider

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US Navy
On a serious note there are 18 wheeler o/o driving out of Ga,Al,Tn,and Fl for a buck a mile....
 

Dynamite 1

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Most of you should be ashamed of your criticism. If you can't be supportive then be quiet. If someone with ALS read this, how do you think you are making them feel.
SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!!!!
 

cheri1122

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Driver
There is nothing silly about this challenge!
Have you ever had a friend or relative suffer and die from ALS? It's a terminal disease. I lost my Mom to ALS. It's not pleasant to watch a loved one lose their mobility, or voice. To just lay there, their mind in perfect order and cognizant of their surroundings but not able to communicate! It's not silly!
Just ask Grace Berry! Jack Berry's widow!
I applaud the effort to get the public's awareness out about this disease and the money it's raised for research to hopefully find a cute and prolong ones life. Once you're diagnosed with ALS, the average life expectancy is 3-5 years. Some rare cases it's longer but again it's rare!

So kindly keep your comments about this challenge as being silly and dumb to yourself. Or if you're sick of hearing about it.....ignore it! But until you've had it affect your life.....you'd want every done possible to find its cure!

You are confusing peoples' opinion on this "challenge" with how they feel about ALS. I don't need to ask Grace Berry, Jack was a friend - I know what ALS does, and how cruel it is.
And I think the idea of challenging people to either donate $100 or dump a bucket of ice water over their heads is likely to raise as much resistance as awareness. Most people will not enjoy being told how much to donate, for starters, and the "challenge" is just bewildering. Maybe if anyone explained that it's meant to mimic the effect of ALS [if only briefly], it would make sense - but I've seen a dozen such "challenges" posted, and no one said anything beyond "pay up, or get soaked". As was mentioned, that just sounds like extortion.
Giving to a worthy cause is something we should do because it's the right thing to do, not because it's the less unpleasant choice.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
You evidently not seen how much the challenge has raised in a very short period of time. If you really checked it out you would find most are doing the challenge and donating. To even suggest it is creating as much resistance as participation is ignoring reality.

I for one can't wrap my brain around the idea of spending time trying to think what could be bad about the campaign.


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asjssl

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Fleet Owner
As long as the money is spent properly ..
I'm no accountant..that does not look good..
They spent more on salaries than research grants. .
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RedBird

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You are confusing peoples' opinion on this "challenge" with how they feel about ALS. I don't need to ask Grace Berry, Jack was a friend - I know what ALS does, and how cruel it is.
And I think the idea of challenging people to either donate $100 or dump a bucket of ice water over their heads is likely to raise as much resistance as awareness. Most people will not enjoy being told how much to donate, for starters, and the "challenge" is just bewildering. Maybe if anyone explained that it's meant to mimic the effect of ALS [if only briefly], it would make sense - but I've seen a dozen such "challenges" posted, and no one said anything beyond "pay up, or get soaked". As was mentioned, that just sounds like extortion.
Giving to a worthy cause is something we should do because it's the right thing to do, not because it's the less unpleasant choice.

Cheri,
There is nothing in my comment that states about people being told how much money to donate!!!!! You give what you can afford to give!

My point is that some people are saying this is silly. But it's not. It's a way to raise awareness and raise money to find research to find a cure.

Think about this! When Avon does their breast cancer 4 day walk, you must pay to sign up to walk. Is that not extortion? When comedian/actor Jerry Lewis does his MS telethons and parades all the stars and the young children in wheel chairs across the stage on national television in hopes of getting donations making you feel sad and sorry, is that not extortion? Well actually that is exploitation!

But my point is made! And if you understand the challenge some people do the bucket thing and don't pay. Others do the bucket and also pay!

No disrespect to Jack Berry (RIP) or his memory he was my friend too! But anybody who has a loved one who's been inflicted with this disease knows the pain and suffering. But you being a former nurse should know its a cruel disease!

My original comment so please go back and re-read it, is simply stating to someone who commented, it being silly and dumb, is that it is not!
 

xiggi

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As long as the money is spent properly ..
I'm no accountant..that does not look good..
They spent more on salaries than research grants. .
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Where exactly did you find that at? The link shows a bunch of chapters.

From what I found the national alsa foundation spent 7% on administration costs and 14% on fundraising and have a very good rating. The rest went towards various goals concerning the illness. Did you find something different.

http://www.alsa.org/about-us/financial-information.html

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Turtle

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If it weren't for the challenge, we wouldn't get Internet gems like this:

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BobWolf

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As long as the money is spent properly ..
I'm no accountant..that does not look good..
They spent more on salaries than research grants. .
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Judging by the tax form this proves my point in my last post. By the way how many voulenteer hours were there that they dont report?
As for the shame on us for not wanting to pay some douche a salary before the people its supposed to help? We shouldnt have any shame or guilt its all on the fiat charities.

As for somone with ALS? Yes I am AWARE its one of the many horrable diseases. As a Medic I see allot of them. Diseases like this just goes to prove God is exceptionaly cruel. Anyone with a legit disease as well as thier loved ones reading my post and those of us who are realists should scream "THESE GUYS ARE RIGHT ON!!"

Bob Wolf.
 

xiggi

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What tax form are you referring too. By all accounts it's a good properly run charity and no one has shown proof otherwise. If someone has proof share it otherwise words mean nothing.

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BobWolf

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http://www.expeditersonline.com/for...48-als-ice-bucket-challenge-1408645246265.jpg

asjssl posted it on the last page.

Roughly 20 grand income 4 grand after Salaries and expenses.

The donations collected for a fellow fallen Fire Fighters family in our area, ALL the money collected went to the family to pay the bills he left behind. Everyone involved in the effort ate thier time and expenses. NOBODY drew a salary.

Bob Wolf.
 
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xiggi

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To begin with its 20 million not thousand. About 25% went to salaries, compensation, benefits,. If you look at the page I linked it has the most recent filing and donations increased but compensations stayed about the same.

Nothing wrong at all with donating to a small local charity but trying to compare it to the expenses of a national one is tuff. Lots of different groups out their local and national do great work.
 

asjssl

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Information came from guidestar ..tax returns dont lie...dont shoot the messenger..
 
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