ACLU - "Communism is the Goal"

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Last time I checked Obama's Administration allowed GE to not pay Taxes last year. The CEO of GE is one of Obama's advisers. Thats a liberal president allowing a MEGA corporation to not pay any taxes.

This is where liberals have it entirely wrong. I get into an argument with liberals and they say stuff like "Yeah your for mega corporations not paying taxes and taking advantage of the working man!"

Uh. No im not, I couldn't care less about mega corporations. What I care about is my personal freedoms and my ability to keep more of my own money.

When I look at the Democrat party. What do I see? I see people who want nothing more then to shut the conservatives up. People like George Soros creates companies to specifically shut down conservative talk radio or TV hosts. Whether you believe what they say or not. Why no debate? Why stifle free speech? I don't want to stifle the liberals free speech.

I see liberal democrat politicians who want to tax me on the type of car I own, How far i drive and what I put in the tank. i see them wanting to tax more of my income. They want to tax me more on donations I want to make. They want to tax me when I get financial gifts. They even want to tax me when im DEAD!!

The people i see supporting the liberals. Are, assaulting people, painting graffiti on public monuments, breaking windows in public places and sending death threats to people..

Seriously, Why would anybody associate themselves with those kinds of people? OR VOTE FOR THEM!!

They also campaign to take away free speech of my political party. Again, Why take away my right to debate? if what your doing is right for everybody. Why not allow debate?

You fit in here like hand in glove, JP: just rattle off all the liberal bashing sound bites you hear on those conservative channels, and ignore anyone who asks whether you have anything resembling facts to back it up.
And you ask what's wrong with debate?!
Nothing, if you know how to do it.

 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
You fit in here like hand in glove, JP: just rattle off all the liberal bashing sound bites you hear on those conservative channels, and ignore anyone who asks whether you have anything resembling facts to back it up.
And you ask what's wrong with debate?!
Nothing, if you know how to do it.


I don't need fox news to tell me the government intrudes into my life and takes too much of my money....:D lol
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I don't need fox news to tell me the government intrudes into my life and takes too much of my money....:D lol

Yep, you pretty much know when you get your pocket picked. The bad part is when the thief then tells you what you can and cannot do tomorrow.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
LiBeRaLs don't believe in personal responsibility. They believe that they are here to relieve the people of the evil called responsibility and care for them. The believe that the people are too stupid to care for their own needs.

LiBeRaLs. Why the random capatlization? Is that your definition of a LiBeRaL that you have above?

Read through this thread and I would have to conclude that you and others would consider me(or anyone with a difference of opionion) a LiBeRaL, am I correct? Because I surely do not fit the description of a LiBeRaL that you stated above.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
So Fox News is your measuring stick for personal responsibility and founding principles? At least you admit it......

I grew up in a majority Democrat area in Southeast Iowa. I was told Republicans are evil. I even voted Democrat the first time I was able to vote. I worked in a factory surrounded by people who complained ALL THE TIME! about wages and how Republicans kept them down......

Then...I had an epiphany. Republicans are not keeping these people poor or down. They are doing that themselves. Democrats are just enabling it by giving them handouts and making their lives comfortable. It was their comfortable misery. They hated themselves and their lives. But yet. They were comfortable.

Democrats are the giant Teat of these people. When the milk runs out. They throw fits and have temper tantrums. The republicans are just the dad trying to throw the 30 year old son out the house.

Keep in mind this was long before fox news and Glenn Beck. Ever since that day my life has gotten better. Not because of some government official or union. Because of the choices I make on my own.

On the Fox news subject. Yes, I am a regular viewer of Glenn Beck. Is he over the top a bit? Yes, But, he's also extremely accurate on world affairs. He is based on the Truth.

I've watched other networks (tried to anyway) Its hogwash. Their hosts are crap and their guests are always these overly educated ivy league intellectuals who think they have the answer for this utopia they want.

If I had a choice to learn from a guy who's been in the industry for 45 years with no college education or a kid who just graduated college for the same industry. I'd go to the guy with experience.......Fox news has the people who own businesses and who've actually lived longer then 15 minutes in the working world!
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
LiBeRaLs. Why the random capatlization? Is that your definition of a LiBeRaL that you have above?

Read through this thread and I would have to conclude that you and others would consider me(or anyone with a difference of opionion) a LiBeRaL, am I correct? Because I surely do not fit the description of a LiBeRaL that you stated above.

I have NO idea what you are or what you consider yourself. Shoot I don't even know WHO you are. You are just letters on a screen. I cannot put a face to the name. You could be from Venus for all I know.

All I know is that you believe in VERY little of what I do, only base on what you write. That is your right, I am NOT throwing stones at you for it. I just disagree with much of what you write in here. That is OK too. It is good that we can do this in this country. That is WHY I served for so long and also why I quit. Far too many in our government, like Obama right now, want to change it. To destroy the very freedoms we exercise in here.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
I have NO idea what you are or what you consider yourself.

Let me lay it out for ya.
Thread #17
That evil fox news! How dare they talk about personal responsibility and the founding principles :p

Thread #18
LiBeRaLs don't believe in personal responsibility. They believe that they are here to relieve the people of the evil called responsibility and care for them. The believe that the people are too stupid to care for their own needs.

From those two posts, one would conclude that someone who doesn't agree with what Fox News puts out, is of course, a LiBeRaL. And everyone in here knows how much I love me some Fox News. Of course anyone who watches Fox News is a Conservative and anyone who watches CNN, MSNBC, or the "Lamestream Media" is of course, a LiBeRaL, right? So pathetic.

Shoot I don't even know WHO you are. You are just letters on a screen. I cannot put a face to the name. You could be from Venus for all I know.

So what would you say my political leanings are then?

All I know is that you believe in VERY little of what I do, only base on what you write.

So, would that make me a Liberal? In your opinion, what would you call me?

That is your right, I am NOT throwing stones at you for it. I just disagree with much of what you write in here.

You don't disagree with what I write, you choose to be childish and tunnel visioned on anyones opinion that doesn't line up with yours.

That is OK too. It is good that we can do this in this country. That is WHY I served for so long and also why I quit. Far too many in our government, like Obama right now, want to change it. To destroy the very freedoms we exercise in here.

So the most logical course of action is to quit, and come here and God know's wherever else to complain about it.

You never did answer the question: Why the random capitalization of Liberal's?

What is your definition of a Liberal?

You throw out the word Liberal here in the Soapbox, you must be referring to someone, who would that be?
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
On the Fox news subject. Yes, I am a regular viewer of Glenn Beck.

Never would've guessed it :rolleyes:

Is he over the top a bit? Yes, But,

A bit? That's an understatement. I really like the "Yes, but....." part of your comment.

he's also extremely accurate on world affairs. He is based on the Truth.

Accurate on world affairs? C'mon man. Based on the Truth(not sure why you capitalized Truth), who's truth?

I've watched other networks (tried to anyway) Its hogwash. Their hosts are crap and their guests are always these overly educated ivy league intellectuals who think they have the answer for this utopia they want.

I see you are an avid listener of Limbaugh also. Read my tag line. Do yourself a favor, turn off the Cable News bro.

If I had a choice to learn from a guy who's been in the industry for 45 years with no college education or a kid who just graduated college for the same industry. I'd go to the guy with experience.......Fox news has the people who own businesses and who've actually lived longer then 15 minutes in the working world!

Let me get this straight then. Fox is the only network that has people on the air that have business experience? No other channel has people on the air with business experience? That's why you watch Fox, because they have people with business experience? hmmmmm......I would think you would want to watch a News channel that had people with Jounalism experience and integrity. That's hard to find on any Cable news network. You've really set the bar high, let me tell ya.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
Never would've guessed it :rolleyes:



A bit? That's an understatement. I really like the "Yes, but....." part of your comment.



Accurate on world affairs? C'mon man. Based on the Truth(not sure why you capitalized Truth), who's truth?



I see you are an avid listener of Limbaugh also. Read my tag line. Do yourself a favor, turn off the Cable News bro.



Let me get this straight then. Fox is the only network that has people on the air that have business experience? No other channel has people on the air with business experience? That's why you watch Fox, because they have people with business experience? hmmmmm......I would think you would want to watch a News channel that had people with Jounalism experience and integrity. That's hard to find on any Cable news network. You've really set the bar high, let me tell ya.

Alright, Why don't ya prove where Beck is wrong. Give me links, vidoes and time lines in history to show beck was wrong....

I'm not a beck fanboy or anything. but, From what I see in the news and what he talks about on his show. He's pretty spot on...

But, You think he's total wrong...So just explain why he's wrong.

:)
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Well I would have agreed with some of this if the idea that republicans and democrats are different but they are not. Most conservatives are just like liberals and more likely than not they want to control the people.

Many conservatives keep preaching they want free markets and people to have opportunities but I have yet to see a republican congress or president to actually step up and do something about it in my lifetime. I won't likely see it either.

IF you want to actually talk about facts and who is screwing who, you have to leave out 90% of both parties and every idiot entertainer to do so.

Back to the ACLU, I again suggest if you are soooo worried about them, join and change it from within.
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
Oh geez...now we will here about the Beck and the "Gold" market again for days on end...:rolleyes:

Actually I totally disagree with Beck and Gold. I think gold is a crap investment.

If our economy does go to hell in a hand basket. What do you want to be sitting on? Gold in your basement or a bunch of paper gold notes? Or Canned food, water and supplies?

You can't eat, build or do anything with gold. So therefore in my book. its a worthless investment.....
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
jpalmer wrote:

What do you want to be sitting on? Gold in your basement or a bunch of paper gold notes? Or Canned food, water and supplies?

I hope included in "supplies" is guns and ammo...more ammo then guns, but a good selection of different "types' for different purposes / needs...
 

jpalmer

Seasoned Expediter
He's an entertainer, he has a staff who messes up quite often and he doesn't make too many corrections because he is there to entertainer, nothing more.

Yup, You're right, I get a pretty good laugh when I watch him talk about the middle east coming together to destroy Israel. Its Hilarious to know that Obama is arming the same people we fought against in Afghanistan.

Yup, Its all highly entertaining.....Especially when its ACTUALLY happening.......:confused:
 

dieseldiva

Veteran Expediter
Let me get this straight then. Fox is the only network that has people on the air that have business experience? No other channel has people on the air with business experience? That's why you watch Fox, because they have people with business experience? hmmmmm......I would think you would want to watch a News channel that had people with Jounalism experience and integrity. That's hard to find on any Cable news network. You've really set the bar high, let me tell ya.

Why don't you enlighten those of us who are news channel challenged with directions to just where it is that you find all of these journalistic folks with experience and integrity.....(this ought to be good):rolleyes:
 
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