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"Navigators" is going clear over my head and making me feel extra stoopid. What is Navigators?
Why are people not signing up? Off the top of my head:
1. It's a nationwide monumental newsworthy CF and anyone that's dumb enough to sign up right now might find themselves interviewed and portrayed on the evening news in a not so flattering way.
2. It's a nationwide monumental CF and it's probably better to wait until things are in a settled state lest you waste time filling out forms and then have to do it again.
3. Akin to #2 but let someone else be the guinea pig, I've got better things to do.
4. If the penalty for the first year is only like $50 or $100 and they can't disqualify you for pre-existing conditions then isn't the bargain-path to wait until year 2 to sign up? (of course this assumes you don't find yourself in the emergency ward sometime during 2014 with a slip and fall accident)
Navigators are the ones hired by the government to help people apply. The downside is you are giving your personal information to someone who might not be screened or qualified.
The secretary of health already said in last weeks hearing that you could be giving your information to a previous convicted criminal since no one checks. Some states are setting up guidelines but the program is a disaster. The only ones signing up are the ones that get it for free.
paullud
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Don't forget that they are also there to tell people to lie to get more subsidies and lower premiums.
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That is true. A local TV station went undercover and filmed the navigators do that exact same thing. Shouldn't be surprised though as they were all people from the ACORN group. That is the same morons that got busted trying to get people to vote for Obama during the last election.
Wasn't 'verification' the one condition that Republicans managed to get attached to the ACA with their shutdown tactics?
Dave: would appreciate a link to that local film, please. If I ever sign up, I might need some good advice on getting the best plan for less money, lol.
Dave: would appreciate a link to that local film, please. If I ever sign up, I might need some good advice on getting the best plan for less money, lol.
Because the sight does not work. You can sign up over the phone, but in this modern age of people glued to a screen, who wants to do that. I know I don't. With something as important as picking the right plan, I know I want to see the plans and take my time comparing them. So I'm waiting for them to get it working, and going to guess that others are also. I see the next site crash coming already haha. I talked with them last week, and they confirmed the site was still not working and they had no idea when it would be
Wasn't 'verification' the one condition that Republicans managed to get attached to the ACA with their shutdown tactics?
Dave: would appreciate a link to that local film, please. If I ever sign up, I might need some good advice on getting the best plan for less money, lol.
No...there is no federal verification on navigators. Some states are doing background checks but not all. The republicans are introducing a bill to shut them down.
I couldn't find that specific link from yesterday but this one explains among several others.
ACORN Redux: The ObamaCare Navigators Nightmare | FrontPage Magazine
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...bamacare-navigators-in-wake-acorn-connection/
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The title is just one of the problems as it implies it is an article on regular insurance companies when it is not.
Many of the 'regular insurance companies' [Aetna, State Farm, BCC] were offering the product, so how are they any better than the company that created it?
There was a single company that misbehaved and was rightfully shutdown, but you can't take the actions of one company that didn't follow the rules and try to pretend it is the entire industry.
You can when much of the industry is fronting for the misbehaving company by selling it's 'mini' plans right alongside the actual health insurance people expected to get, without making the difference clear.
Forbes magazine has a lot of liberal bias articles because they have liberal authors. It also has a lot of conservative bias articles for the same reason.
IOW, that "reputation for liberal articles" you mentioned is a wee bit one sided, lol.
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paullud
Veteran Expediter
Because the other companies are properly licensed in MO and they aren't making false claims, that's how they are better and doing it legally.
You missed the part in the article I guess that a few scam artists got together and made false claims about their discount product.
IOW, that "reputation for liberal articles" you mentioned is a wee bit one sided, lol.
No, that is why I mentioned that authors there are biased on both sides. Originally the poster brought up Forbes thinking it was just a right wing magazine, trying to say even Forbes thinks there was a big health insurance problem and that is why I first mentioned that they are known to have left wing articles too.
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Just one more ocare tax those evil rich must pay, but hey its free health care.
http://www.my9nj.com/story/23967715/njs-rich-funding-obamacare?config=H264
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http://www.my9nj.com/story/23967715/njs-rich-funding-obamacare?config=H264
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And that is just for the real estate side. Investment taxes, estate taxes, and a handful of other one are in there as well.
WanderngFool
Active Expediter
So Obama is letting people keep their current policies for another year. Put me in the office pool (you guys do have an office pool don't ya? ) for this being a day that President Obama looks back on and regrets.
) for this being a day that President Obama looks back on and regrets.
So Obama is letting people keep their current policies for another year. Put me in the office pool (you guys do have an office pool don't ya?
I regret his entire term.
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So Obama is letting people keep their current policies for another year. Put me in the office pool (you guys do have an office pool don't ya?
If you still have it your ok. If you were cancelled, you are likely hosed. Especially where state regulators already said they aren't going to reverse cancelled policies. Anyone who had a cancelled policy and the insurance carrier pulled out (lot of those) the carrier isn't about to say gee lets go back in business for a year".
The whole thing is a disaster and will continue to be a disaster.
So what he said today basically means nothing.
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paullud
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Now we have the failure of one of Obama's "success stories".
http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http:..._767868.html&ei=f5qLUv6aMIbfmQex54HACQ&wsc=vb
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