About to pick up a 2015 FORD TRANSIT i5 3.2 DIESEL..

ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 26, 2014

2015 ford transit 250 medium roof 148" Long Wheelbase (regular) 11 feet .

Im a courier/expedite driver thats going to do a lot of 4-10 hour drives out of ontario and some local work as well.
I was looking at the Mercedes SPrinter 2014 3.0 v6 and am scared off by the high price of maintenace etc..
THis transit is of comparable price fully loaded then a base mercedes.. I know the Sprinter also has a 4 cyl but im regularly going to load 2000lbs for my job and i heard the 2.1 4 cyl would work too hard regulary hauling. tho it would be good for jobs meant for cars that i could do, as it has a economy like my last Ford Transit connect

what i am curious of is.. Is the diesel 5 cylinder going to get better Mpg than the v6 sprinter. there is no figures out there yet.

i know it will be cheaper on parts etc.. but requires service (according to ford) every 8,000.. I know doing basically highway miles it will not need an oil change for 15,000 at least . the service intervals recommended by Dealers are of course not right for us who drive 12,000 in a month easily all highway

im also curious about longevity. i know the diesel should last and i am hoping to get 1,000,000km out of it and maybe more all things considered, price and cost of ownership and gas costs i am thinking the transit would be better for the job going to make final decision on monday there is only 1 transit in ontario and If im to get the one thats available it was the Demo at a dealership and they dont wanna sell it so i have to pay full MSRP. im not willing to wait and build one i need to work within 2 weeks..
thoughts?

Mailer · Jul 26, 2014

Trannsit diesel mpg. Here it is, I think.

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ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 26, 2014

Mailer said:
Trannsit diesel mpg. Here it is, I think.

New Ford Transit Van Pushes MPG and Torque Boundaries - PickupTrucks.com News

so it should be a bit better than the sprinter in gas. even 1-2 mpg .. over 100,000miles a year translates to significant difference then add the lower cost of upkeep..

theyre trying to sell me a 300,000 7 yr diesel care warranty. its 3800$ im gonna put 300,000 in 22-24 months i dont foresee any problems with this engine that would cost anywhere close to 3800 between the 100-300 mark like i said i plan to put in synthetic oil, keep up with the service, use diesel fuel conditioner etc.. if i pay off the van in 4 years i hope to have 2 more years left in the engine life.. any reason to think that this cant last 800k + if driven and taken care of ?

FlyingVan · Jul 27, 2014

My personal conviction is that all the extra warranties that they try to sell us are money grabs for them, so I never bothered. I've read too many stories that they will find a reason not to pay in the event you break down. I would save that money and keep it in a maintenance account and if you break down, you use that money for repairs.

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Turtle · Jul 27, 2014

Here's the PDF of the warranty. http://www.ford.ca/resources/ford/general/pdf/service/DieselCARETotal.pdf

300,000 in 24 months is just a snotload of driving. If you're driving that much, and getting a dollar a mile, you really won't have to buy an extended warranty, because you'll have more money than you'll know what to do with.

If the TotalCare Warranty were $1000, even $1500, then it would be worth itn for an expediter. But most of the things covered are going to fail during the basic warranty period, or they won't fail at all until the extended warranty has expired. The few parts likely to fail and be covered under the extended warranty aren't very expensive to replace, anyway.

I agree with just putting the money aside in a maintenance fund. The AAA Premier plan gets you pretty much what the TotalCare roadside assistance gets you, plus motel reimbursement in the case of a mechanical breakdown.

ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 27, 2014

its not 1.00 a mile per say theres local rates, wih multiple deliveries and connections where u can make a lot more than that.. and long runs are generally around 90 cents per km with often nothing coming back.. in the end i figure net is around 65 cents per total km driven so over 300,000km or 186,000miles a gross of 190 is possible CdN

out of the diesel options out there, with all modern ones being somewhat sketchy, but i think ill do good in this transit. the fuel savings alone will compensate for the extra repairs id say and still take home more than a gas.. lets hope im not wrong

xiggi · Jul 27, 2014

I would take a serious look at the eco boost. It's has a history I believe the diesel is a first year model and that's always a sketchy purchase. The eb is 4 to 6 grand less, higher weight capacity on the srw, lower maintenence and cheaper replacement engine if you decide to go that route someday.

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ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 27, 2014

xiggi said:
I would take a serious look at the eco boost. It's has a history I believe the diesel is a first year model and that's always a sketchy purchase. The eb is 4 to 6 grand less, higher weight capacity on the srw, lower maintenence and cheaper replacement engine if you decide to go that route someday.

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the 3.2 i5 engine has a history in past applications.. but this will be the first year on this van the engine itself is proven

im not even considering the gas options with how much i drive and wanting to keep the vehicle forever, or even sell it for a decent amount of money when its over 500k its between this and the sprinter one is more proven but surely so much more costly

xiggi · Jul 27, 2014

I don't believe the design has been paired with all the things required in the van like a dpf system. I could be wrong on that. Here in the states the Ford diesel and the sprinter can be had for about the same money.

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Treadmill · Jul 27, 2014

przewinski said:
its not 1.00 a mile per say theres local rates, wih multiple deliveries and connections where u can make a lot more than that.. and long runs are generally around 90 cents per km with often nothing coming back.. in the end i figure net is around 65 cents per total km driven so over 300,000km or 186,000miles a gross of 190 is possible CdN

out of the diesel options out there, with all modern ones being somewhat sketchy, but i think ill do good in this transit. the fuel savings alone will compensate for the extra repairs id say and still take home more than a gas.. lets hope im not wrong

Personally I think these are pie in the sky numbers. With all of the driving you will be doing you won't have time to sleep let alone be safe on the road. I will believe you when you show me your numbers at the end of the first year.

Turtle · Jul 27, 2014

3100 miles a week, every week, 52 weeks.

Treadmill · Jul 27, 2014

Turtle said:
3100 miles a week, every week, 52 weeks.

Not including local deliveries.

ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 27, 2014

Treadmill said:
Personally I think these are pie in the sky numbers. With all of the driving you will be doing you won't have time to sleep let alone be safe on the road. I will believe you when you show me your numbers at the end of the first year.

there is no hours of service.. but can only do what u can do.. ill work all day and then pick up at 5 pm a 10 hour drive for delivery 7am . a few hr nap is possible on the way. then another few and come back.. several times got a pick up on the way back and ended up making a clean 1 dollar per km driven on the round trip.. those kinda things inflate the numbers. sometimes u get two different deliveries for different companies and each pay full. it happens.

93,000miles one year.. thats only about 1800 miles a week.. including local

Treadmill · Jul 27, 2014

przewinski said:
there is no hours of service.. but can only do what u can do.. ill work all day and then pick up at 5 pm a 10 hour drive for delivery 7am . a few hr nap is possible on the way. then another few and come back.. several times got a pick up on the way back and ended up making a clean 1 dollar per km driven on the round trip.. those kinda things inflate the numbers. sometimes u get two different deliveries for different companies and each pay full. it happens.

How long have you been with said company? I just don't see it happening but maybe I'm wrong. I still would like to see your numbers after 1 yr driving like that. I drove 125,000 miles in a year before and by the end of the year I was done.

ManicStreetSprinter · Jul 27, 2014

Well ill definetely keep my numbers and update how the experience with the Ford Transit diesel is going, if i dont suddenly change my mind to a Sprinter.. I figure I would have to drive even more and ask them for more work to Support the upkeep of a sprinter.. I like being home 3-4 times a week as ive been tho. SO many of those kms are just coming back empty so i could be in the area near home and know that theres always local dispatch around while waiting for next long run.