About time WI catches up!

billg27

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Wisconsin Republicans said they have reached an agreement to increase the speed limit to 70 mph on some stretches of interstates and highways in the state.

The deal is to be voted on by the Senate Transportation Committee on Thursday and then head to the full state Senate next week, clearing the way for the bill to pass the Republican-controlled Legislature after it stalled last session.

Under the agreement, the state Department of Transportation would decide which roads could increase from 65 mph to 70 mph. The speed limit could not be raised on four-lane roadways with at-grade accesses. That means highways and freeways that don't have entrance and exit ramps wouldn't change.



“Actually, believe it or not, it's for safety reasons,” Republican state Rep. Paul Tittl said.

Tittl said he sponsored the bill to raise Wisconsin's interstate highway speed limit to 70 mph.

“The safest roadway is when you can get 85 percent of all people driving all or about the same speed. You actually create a safer roadway,” Tittl said.

“Triple-A's concerns are all about safety and saving lives,” said Pam Moen of Triple A.



Triple A said it's against raising Wisconsin's speed limit because in states like Minnesota and Iowa, raising the speed limit has led to more big trucks being involved in fatal crashes.



“We know by increasing the speed limit we are also going to increase the number of people who are killed and injured every year on Wisconsin roadways,” Moen said.



Supporters of raising the speed limit on freeways said most drivers are already driving over 70. Raising the speed limit is only catching up to what drivers are already doing.

“There was a study done in Missouri and actually people only drove 1 more mile per hour in Missouri when they went from 65 to 70,” Tittl said.

The Wisconsin Department of Transportation will have the final say.

Wisconsin is now the only state in the Midwest with a 65 mph maximum speed limit for all roadways.
 

cheri1122

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The comment "the safest roadway is when you can get 85% of people driving about the same speed" is spot on. Drivers who go faster engage in increased lane changing, while those who drive slower cause increased lane changing among drivers behind them. Both increase odds of a collision exponentially, which is the fatal flaw in split speed limits.
Which is one reason I dislike driving in Michigan.
 

OntarioVanMan

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The comment "the safest roadway is when you can get 85% of people driving about the same speed" is spot on. Drivers who go faster engage in increased lane changing, while those who drive slower cause increased lane changing among drivers behind them. Both increase odds of a collision exponentially, which is the fatal flaw in split speed limits.
Which is one reason I dislike driving in Michigan.
or Ill?.....Indiana as well? Illinois now has a 10 MPH difference when they increased to 70 for those over 13T...Ohio like US 35 in sections is STILL 55 for trucks over 10,000 lbs while cars are now 70mph...
 

OntarioVanMan

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well all this means to me at best now I'll be at some times 2 -3 MPH under instead of 2-3 mph over....LOL

good thing for trucks with logs tho....more miles in a day...increased income....
 

OntarioVanMan

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Yes, change the law because perish the thought that people just obey the law.
my usually cruising speed is about 63...unless it appears I might be bunching up the crowd and I pick it up a notch until the crowd gets by safely and i tune it back again...

Kinda like Chicago 55 on 294..if anyone did 55 they'd get trambled!!
 

OntarioVanMan

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Hudson to Beloit approx 290 miles at 65mph....4.44 hrs
........................................290 @ 70 mph...........4.14 hrs..a logable truck gets in an extra 30 minutes of drive time...or an extra 30 miles approx....at .50 a mile an extra $15.00 a day they just got a raise!
 

LDB

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I hate to burst your bubble but 4.44 minus 4.14 is an extra .3 hours or 18 minutes not 30 minutes meaning $9 extra. More time yes, but not that much. At $4 fuel, 8.5mpg at 65 and 8mpg at 70 there are 2.15 gallons more fuel burned in 290 miles for $8.60 more expense. HEY LOOK! YOU'RE RIGHT! SOOO EXCITING! THEY GOT A 40 CENT RAISE!!!!!!!! Well, unless we factor in extra wear and tear on the engine due to increased wind resistance and other factors that increase along with speed. But what do I know. I'm just a dumb ole truck driver that likes arithmetic, or ciphering as they used to call it in school. :)
 

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An unscientific observation by another dumb ole truck driver is that about 70% of the tractor/trailers on the road are doing 65 mph or less. Most large LTL and TL company power units are governed between 63 and 67 mph. Profit conscious O/O aslo run 65 mph or less. With speed limits 70 mph and above a de facto split speed limit is created.
 

Moot

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What happened to the idea of reducing our dependence on foreign oil that initiated the 55 mph speed limit back in 1973? Oh yeah, we have windmills and solar power today.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I hate to burst your bubble but 4.44 minus 4.14 is an extra .3 hours or 18 minutes not 30 minutes meaning $9 extra. More time yes, but not that much. At $4 fuel, 8.5mpg at 65 and 8mpg at 70 there are 2.15 gallons more fuel burned in 290 miles for $8.60 more expense. HEY LOOK! YOU'RE RIGHT! SOOO EXCITING! THEY GOT A 40 CENT RAISE!!!!!!!! Well, unless we factor in extra wear and tear on the engine due to increased wind resistance and other factors that increase along with speed. But what do I know. I'm just a dumb ole truck driver that likes arithmetic, or ciphering as they used to call it in school. :)
I was a little too quick on the cyphering...LOL Now add in the increased speed in Illinois and you can double that .40 cents....LOL:p
 

Ragman

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Particularly since we know that most speed limits are arbitrary, anyway, and have nothing to do with safety.
55 mph was originally chosen because 55 is the slowest a semi can go in high gear. At least that's what I have been told.
 

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There are several roads in New Jersey that have variable speed limits, highways with heavier traffic, where the speed limit changes automatically to match that of 85% of the traffic on that road. If the posted limit is 55 MPH, but 85% o the traffic is moving at 65 MPH, the posted limit changes. The reverse is true, where if the posted limit is 65 MPH and 85% of the traffic is only going 50 MPH because of road or travel conditions, the posted limit gets dropped to match that of the 85%.

The Federal Highway Administration's own studies show that most speed limits are arbitrary based on political, rather than on empirical safety data.
 
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Turtle

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But, but, the law is the law and must bow down to master law maker. Perish the thought of challenging said law.
I wasn't going to go there because the ridiculousness of the referenced statement in Post #5 kinda stands on its own, especially when you apply the statement, word for word, in all of it's sarcastic glory, to those who want to challenge and change the current abortion laws. #hypocrisy
 

LDB

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If their limit was 55 there might be an argument although there wouldn't really. At 65 there's no argument at all, there's only "I don't like/want that speed and that's all that matters." I don't care either way.
 

cheri1122

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Particularly since we know that most speed limits are arbitrary, anyway, and have nothing to do with safety.

I've seen a speed limit changed in Ohio twice, to placate residents: first, when a teen boy rolled his car & died going way above the posted limit of 35 on a curve, his [locally influential] mother campaigned to have the limit reduced to 25, and it was. The second was when trucks avoided the turnpike to protest toll increases, choosing 20 or 2 instead, and the residents of numerous small towns enroute didn't like it. The turnpike Commission refused to lower the tolls, but offered to raise the speed limit to entice the trucks, and it worked.
Speed limits are about safety like meatloaf is about rocket science. :rolleyes:
 
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