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Expediter or expeditor, either is correct. Both -ER and -OR means "one who", and both are used with agent-nouns. Generally, the -ER is used to describe a person who performs a specific action, like singer, baker, employer, lawyer, speaker, miller, manager, photographer, reporter, farmer, teacher, and, of course, expediter. It is also originating to (southerner, New Yorker), or possessive (third grader, old-timer). These are examples of English agent-nouns.
For Latin agent-nouns, -OR is generally used, as in actor, collector, competitor, conductor, director, editor, governor, inspector, narrator, prosecutor, spectator, visitor." This also is found in the names for certain objects, like calculator, refrigerator and escalator.
Basically, when it comes down to determining which words end in -ER and which ones end in -OR, the Oxford English Dictionary makes some historical distinctions, attributing -ER to words of English origin and -OR to words that entered English from Anglo-Norman, Old French or Latin.
The origin of expedite is from the Latin expedītus, which is the past participle of expedīre, meaning to disengage, to set the feet free (ex- + ped-) and get moving. Using the Latin origin, expeditor would be correct, or at least not incorrect. But that's just how the word was derived, on invented. It was first used in the middle 1400s and is of Middle English origin, and thus expediter would be correct, because the word entered the English language from English origin, not Latin.
From the OED:
"The distinction between -ER and -OR as the ending of agent-nouns is purely historical and orthographical: in the present spoken language they are both pronounced [the same]. In received spelling, the choice between the two forms is often capricious, or determined by other than historical reasons."
Some people say that it's supposed to be expeditor, but because that is spoken and sounds like expediter, that's how people have been misspelling it. That makes sense, provided you've done no research on the word itself. It's never really ever been used as expeditor, and wasn't created that way, even though, technically, it's not incorrect to spell it that way.
So while either is technically correct from the etymological and grammatical perspective, the OED lists no alternative spelling for expediter.
For Latin agent-nouns, -OR is generally used, as in actor, collector, competitor, conductor, director, editor, governor, inspector, narrator, prosecutor, spectator, visitor." This also is found in the names for certain objects, like calculator, refrigerator and escalator.
Basically, when it comes down to determining which words end in -ER and which ones end in -OR, the Oxford English Dictionary makes some historical distinctions, attributing -ER to words of English origin and -OR to words that entered English from Anglo-Norman, Old French or Latin.
The origin of expedite is from the Latin expedītus, which is the past participle of expedīre, meaning to disengage, to set the feet free (ex- + ped-) and get moving. Using the Latin origin, expeditor would be correct, or at least not incorrect. But that's just how the word was derived, on invented. It was first used in the middle 1400s and is of Middle English origin, and thus expediter would be correct, because the word entered the English language from English origin, not Latin.
From the OED:
"The distinction between -ER and -OR as the ending of agent-nouns is purely historical and orthographical: in the present spoken language they are both pronounced [the same]. In received spelling, the choice between the two forms is often capricious, or determined by other than historical reasons."
Some people say that it's supposed to be expeditor, but because that is spoken and sounds like expediter, that's how people have been misspelling it. That makes sense, provided you've done no research on the word itself. It's never really ever been used as expeditor, and wasn't created that way, even though, technically, it's not incorrect to spell it that way.
So while either is technically correct from the etymological and grammatical perspective, the OED lists no alternative spelling for expediter.
Expediter or expeditor, either is correct. Both -ER and -OR means "one who", and both are used with agent-nouns. Generally, the -ER is used to describe a person who performs a specific action, like singer, baker, employer, lawyer, speaker, miller, manager, photographer, reporter, farmer, teacher, and, of course, expediter. It is also originating to (southerner, New Yorker), or possessive (third grader, old-timer). These are examples of English agent-nouns.
For Latin agent-nouns, -OR is generally used, as in actor, collector, competitor, conductor, director, editor, governor, inspector, narrator, prosecutor, spectator, visitor." This also is found in the names for certain objects, like calculator, refrigerator and escalator.
Basically, when it comes down to determining which words end in -ER and which ones end in -OR, the Oxford English Dictionary makes some historical distinctions, attributing -ER to words of English origin and -OR to words that entered English from Anglo-Norman, Old French or Latin.
The origin of expedite is from the Latin expedītus, which is the past participle of expedīre, meaning to disengage, to set the feet free (ex- + ped-) and get moving. Using the Latin origin, expeditor would be correct, or at least not incorrect. But that's just how the word was derived, on invented. It was first used in the middle 1400s and is of Middle English origin, and thus expediter would be correct, because the word entered the English language from English origin, not Latin.
From the OED:
"The distinction between -ER and -OR as the ending of agent-nouns is purely historical and orthographical: in the present spoken language they are both pronounced [the same]. In received spelling, the choice between the two forms is often capricious, or determined by other than historical reasons."
Some people say that it's supposed to be expeditor, but because that is spoken and sounds like expediter, that's how people have been misspelling it. That makes sense, provided you've done no research on the word itself. It's never really ever been used as expeditor, and wasn't created that way, even though, technically, it's not incorrect to spell it that way.
So while either is technically correct from the etymological and grammatical perspective, the OED lists no alternative spelling for expediter.
And that concludes our laungage class for today.
Dakota
Veteran Expediter
Fixed it for ya!!!
Thank yew.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
Expediter or expeditor, either is correct. Both -ER and -OR means "one who", and both are used with agent-nouns. Generally, the -ER is used to describe a person who performs a specific action, like singer, baker, employer, lawyer, speaker, miller, manager, photographer, reporter, farmer, teacher, and, of course, expediter. It is also originating to (southerner, New Yorker), or possessive (third grader, old-timer). These are examples of English agent-nouns.
For Latin agent-nouns, -OR is generally used, as in actor, collector, competitor, conductor, director, editor, governor, inspector, narrator, prosecutor, spectator, visitor." This also is found in the names for certain objects, like calculator, refrigerator and escalator.
Basically, when it comes down to determining which words end in -ER and which ones end in -OR, the Oxford English Dictionary makes some historical distinctions, attributing -ER to words of English origin and -OR to words that entered English from Anglo-Norman, Old French or Latin.
The origin of expedite is from the Latin expedītus, which is the past participle of expedīre, meaning to disengage, to set the feet free (ex- + ped-) and get moving. Using the Latin origin, expeditor would be correct, or at least not incorrect. But that's just how the word was derived, on invented. It was first used in the middle 1400s and is of Middle English origin, and thus expediter would be correct, because the word entered the English language from English origin, not Latin.
From the OED:
"The distinction between -ER and -OR as the ending of agent-nouns is purely historical and orthographical: in the present spoken language they are both pronounced [the same]. In received spelling, the choice between the two forms is often capricious, or determined by other than historical reasons."
Some people say that it's supposed to be expeditor, but because that is spoken and sounds like expediter, that's how people have been misspelling it. That makes sense, provided you've done no research on the word itself. It's never really ever been used as expeditor, and wasn't created that way, even though, technically, it's not incorrect to spell it that way.
So while either is technically correct from the etymological and grammatical perspective, the OED lists no alternative spelling for expediter.
I still have visions of Cliff Claven
I still have visions of Cliff Claven
Well Nahmie, native Americans were known to have visions with the help of a peyote button or two...
Dakota
Veteran Expediter
I still have visions of Cliff Claven
Oh no, here comes the lecture about how Cliff Claven made stuff up, but what Turtle puts in the post is 100% fact.....
Oh no, here comes the lecture about how Cliff Claven made stuff up, but what Turtle puts in the post is 100% fact.....
If you can refute anything I posted, please do so. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you would post something like that.
If you do a site search for "clavin" and one for "claven", to account for the misspellings, you will see that perception is not even remotely correct.
I don't know about the emoticons, but the use of "lecture" certainly didn't help the inference, considering I've only mentioned it once, and my entire lecture consisted of a single sentence. <shrug>
I'm not even sure that you even can. The only way I've found to edit my posts on the Droid is to use the Moderator Functions and edit them that way. It's been so long since I've used a non-paid version of Tapatalk that I'm not sure if an Edit function is available.
(sorry to further explode the Cliff Clavin myth, but I really don't know. <saaaaa-nort>)
Wong was good, tho. I had Chinese buffet takeout this afternoon. It would have been better (funnier) if it was from Wong's, but it was from the Dragon Buffet (Pines Rd exit, just behind the Whataburger, in Shreveport - it's very good Chinese food).