A TOY Gun Buy-Back Program....

chefdennis

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Yeap, they want to buy back TOY Guns....And peoplesame, Liberalism isn't a Mental disorder....:rolleyes:

Newark group to hold buy-back of toy guns

Published: Monday, August 22, 2011, 6:35 AM Updated: Monday, August 22, 2011, 6:38 AM
The Associated Press
Newark group to hold buy-back of toy guns | NJ.com


NEWARK — A New Jersey anti-violence group is conducting its own kind of weapons buy-back — this one aimed at children.
Newark-based group Stop Shootin' Inc. is holding a toy gun exchange program today. They're asking children to bring in their toy guns, water pistols or cap guns and exchange them for a positive toy or a book.

Newark City Councilman Ras Baraka says more children and teenagers die each year from gunfire than from cancer, the flu, HIV/AIDS or other causes combined.

The toy gun exchange will be held from noon to 4 p.m. in the Mildred Helms Park in Newark.

Newark has seen one of its most violent summers in a decade. And Stop Shootin' says ending the cycle of violence must start with the young.
 

paullud

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Can you imagine the horror this will stop, just think of all the children running around with water guns thinking they are just fun. This event is sure to be a success, we all know water guns are gateway guns. :rolleyes:

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layoutshooter

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I wonder what they mean by "positive" toys or books? A crack pipe or a "how too" on making meth?

I was a 4H rifle and pistol instructor for 5 years. We had a large, active group of kids. We shot 10 weeks a year. None got in trouble. It WAS positive.

These people should RAISE their children. That is where the problems are starting. Parents are not doing their job. Values not being taught.
 

greg334

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Why is it liberalism that causes this?

I mean many conservative things being done are just as dumb and stupid.
 

chefdennis

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Hmmm yea i see your point...I mean it is most often a bunch of Conservatives that are pushing for more gun control and more gun laws and taking guns off the streets...or even out lawing them in some cities...:rolleyes:

As for "other" dumb things done by dumb conservatives and or liberals yes they are both equal opportunity offenders...so what..this is about a "Toy" gun buy back...not something else..or another thing...
 

cheri1122

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Hmmm yea i see your point...I mean it is most often a bunch of Conservatives that are pushing for more gun control and more gun laws and taking guns off the streets...or even out lawing them in some cities...:rolleyes:

It isn't the libs who have books banned from school libraries, as if kids who enjoy Harry Potter are all pursuing witchcraft & devil worship....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

As for "other" dumb things done by dumb conservatives and or liberals yes they are both equal opportunity offenders...so what..this is about a "Toy" gun buy back...not something else..or another thing...

Agree that it's the wrong approach to teaching kids - better to teach them how to make their own choices, based upon accurate info and critical thinking skills.
Don't teach what to think, but how, and they'll learn what they need to know.
 

chefdennis

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and we got to banning books from a toy gun buy back how???:rolleyes:

as for pointing out that it isn't liberals that want them banned, ok as i said both parties are equal opportunity offenders of doing dumb things....:)
 

cheri1122

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Every one of the brazillion articles you post has the same message: liberals in general [and the President in particular] are evil scum bent on destroying the American Way, which makes your admission that one is as bad as the other seem a bit, shall we say, hollow?
It's not too hard to find whatever reinforces your views - but all it accomplishes is to make your feeling of superiority a little bit greater, and drive the wedge between the opposing viewpoints that much deeper. That isn't dialogue or even conversation, it's just flat out bashing, and after awhile, it gets tiresome.
So: what kind of society do you envision as healthy and stable, and how do we get there?:confused:


 

paullud

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Every one of the brazillion articles you post has the same message: liberals in general [and the President in particular] are evil scum bent on destroying the American Way, which makes your admission that one is as bad as the other seem a bit, shall we say, hollow?
It's not too hard to find whatever reinforces your views - but all it accomplishes is to make your feeling of superiority a little bit greater, and drive the wedge between the opposing viewpoints that much deeper. That isn't dialogue or even conversation, it's just flat out bashing, and after awhile, it gets tiresome.
So: what kind of society do you envision as healthy and stable, and how do we get there?:confused:



That's really more of a mischaracterization, being conservative doesn't mean you are Republican. A conservative Republican and a conservative Libertarian aren't going to agree on a lot of things but they appear to many to be one.

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cheri1122

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That's really more of a mischaracterization, being conservative doesn't mean you are Republican. A conservative Republican and a conservative Libertarian aren't going to agree on a lot of things but they appear to many to be one.

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Grrrr - I didn't say 'Republican', did I? Because conservative Democrats can be just as odious about trashing liberals. The party isn't the problem [except for idiots who vote a 'straight ticket' rather than actually think about it], the problem is looking for things to feel 'superior' about, rather than ways to MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYONE. [Actual scumbags & criminals excepted, of course.]
Clear?
 

paullud

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What is a conservative Libertarian??

This is the definition used at urban dictionary.

Conservative Libertarian A Conservative Libertarian in the United States is a person that adheres to the constitution as a libertarian does, but will do so in a conservative manner. Conservative Libertarians are conservative in political nature, such as foreign policy, homeland security, and economics while strictly interpreting the constitution as it states. They believe in free rights, liberty, and the opportunity for everyone to make it to the top. Conservative Libertarians leave it up to the individual to determine what is right and wrong for themselves, and leave it up to the states to deal with murder and unjustified actions. Conservative Libertarianism is also a political position that deals with morality and ethical beliefs, based that all men and women are created equal. It is also a political party that does not allow religious beliefs to get in the way of allowing all people (regardless of their background, ethical standpoints, religious standpoints, or sexuality) the promises of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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chefdennis

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LOL, healthy and stable socitey...please...show one in any part of the world...LOL...really....:p

But lets give it a shot..imprison and kill all liberals to start with, then we could do away with all of their "we can take care of you better then you can yourself feel good fix everything for the poor programs. Then kill all the welfare entitlement crowd that feel the need to drain the working people class of their money for their support...then just for giggles start a few more wars where ever we feel like it just to do it...:rolleyes:

Oh and internment camps yea that worked once before in our history, we could do those again...i mean we all ready have those FEMA camps and railcars ready to go...:rolleyes:

Makes about as much sense as what this "shared sacrifice" and spread the wealth and tax the rich and give to the needy , greedy corporations need to be piliaged and their excess profits returned to the people robin hood crap does....

My "feeling of superiority" !?!? Phew thats a joke.. i am one of the most "Inferior" people around... there are soo many here that run rings around me as being just plain good people..and doing what capable and needed...I take no superior position to anyone here..well maybe a few..but then we all do that now don't we....Now if you think that i think i am superior to those that won't or don't work and continue to live off of the working class of society, yea well that you would probably be right about..since i believe in taking responsibilty for mine and myself and not taking a hand out from the government to live on..yea you'd be right....that being said, yes some are victims of current job loss, and by current i mean within the last 18-24 months, and helping them is fine to a limited extent, but beyond that..nope sorry...oh that help shouldn't be coming from the FEDERAL government...

As for how to get there, if its not provided for in the US Constitution and or voted on on the state level..then do away with it...its really that simple.....and notice i said state level, because thats where most help if not provided by family, charity and the church should be handled....that way the people have more control over what happens....as for job creation, get the governement out of the way, remove 90% of the Federal govermental agencies that oversee business and get rid of most if not all regulations on the Federal level and reduce the Federal Corp taxes that are paid by the people, since corporations don't pay taxes...Any regulations of business that isnt covered my the Constitution and ammendments should be on the state level...

Totally revamp the tax system, with most of what is collected going to the states..and the states control what the budget of the fed gov will be the the tax dollars that go to pay for that budget....

Limit ALL goverment elected positions to no more then 4 yrs...and no chance of coming back at all ever...get rid of government pensions for all elected officials, i mean they do what they do out of the goodness of their hearts and for the country....no unions for government workers. Limited power for states workers unions...private sector can deal with the unions as they see fit...

Thats a good start, a pipe dream but a good start And as for dialogue or conversation, where did you get the idea i was after??? Iam sure you read my response in another thread where i said as long as it fuels the discourse, i am fine with it....fact or fiction, doesn't mean a thing as long as it serves the agenda....kind like the politics of today...

Oh and please notice that no where did i take a single shot at you personally...and for what it is worth, most politicians including liberals from both parties and the one that occupies the WH are scum...but then we get what we deserve don't we...:)

PS: lol i know this just goes against the conversation deal i just posted about, but oh..don't take this as a shot at you, but since you asked me a question, ill ask you, have the people given barry a long enough chance and time as we were told we needed to do and how is that hope and change working for you ??? And if you don't care to answer thats ok, because i am sur id use it at a later date...

Paul, while i am not posting this for your benefit, I have often and in past post here referred to myself as a Conservative with Libertarian leanings...i am not registered to either party but as a independent, and i have voted for both parties including bill clinton both times....
 
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skyraider

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Grrrr - I didn't say 'Republican', did I? Because conservative Democrats can be just as odious about trashing liberals. The party isn't the problem [except for idiots who vote a 'straight ticket' rather than actually think about it], the problem is looking for things to feel 'superior' about, rather than ways to MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYONE. [Actual scumbags & criminals excepted, of course.]
Clear?

You boys have now fired up Cheri the Red, Im gonna hide behind a big boulder for awhile. lol
 

paullud

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Grrrr - I didn't say 'Republican', did I? Because conservative Democrats can be just as odious about trashing liberals. The party isn't the problem [except for idiots who vote a 'straight ticket' rather than actually think about it], the problem is looking for things to feel 'superior' about, rather than ways to MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYONE. [Actual scumbags & criminals excepted, of course.]
Clear?

Yes ma'am.

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Tennesseahawk

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Libertarian - I think, therefore I am.
Liberal - I feel, therefore I is.
Drunk - I drink, therefore I wizz.
Skunk - I stink, therefore I stink.
 
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