A sign of success

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
It's all relative. been watching folks wanting to go to the bush with the kid. Can't believe the creature comforts some tink they need. Wuz a rude awakening for some. Some made the cut for weight, an some said I can't live like that and forfeited their full reservation money. Many of the ones that made the cut, didn't fare too well while they were gone. It's all interesting. Folks try to tell em an help em, nope, got all da answers. Same ole story as this biz. I've been to the point for a long time now that i'm just easy. When folks differ over whatever, my answer is, in fact, whatever.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
If the custom bunk was made of plywood as opposed to that heavy particle board would of trimmed off at least a hundred pounds...

Custom bunks aren't neccessary to be comfortable...they are a waste of money, built cheap. as a single, van weighs out with driver at 300 lbs and full tank about 6150 lbs and ALL my gear that leaves 2400lb payload.
 
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dhalltoyo

Veteran Expediter
Yep, I have seen your van and that's the way to go.

Interesting how FedEx seems to be loaded with Sprinters, but they require a 2500lb minimum. Based upon your cargo limits, it would seem obvious that many in their fleet are operating outside the GVWR.

As professional as they seem to be it makes me wonder how the safety department isn't all over that issue; considering many of those Sprinters have a custom built sleeper package.
 

late4dinner

Seasoned Expediter
A couple years ago, Landstar let a driver bring on a Fun Mover as a cargo van. You know the RV's with space in the rear to haul your ATV or Motor Cycle. I met the Man and his Wife in Florida and they were two of the nicest people you ever wanted to meet. Problem was they could only haul 900# and their gvw was 12,500. Which meant that they had to log every mile.
Can you just see the face of the guard at a power plant or some such place when the RV came in the truck entrance.
They don't seem to be around anymore. I hope they found a nice RV Park.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I tracked down the van moose spotted and wrote about here. The owner has a remarkable truck-driving career and an even more interesting van. The story is in the upcoming issue of Expedite NOW.

If you do not already have a free copy mailed to your home, click here to subscribe. The magazine can also be found on the racks at nearly 500 truck stops but copies go fast. Your best bet is to have it mailed to your home.

Excerpts:

Expediter Bill Allen had two problems. He did not like idling his Sprinter van to stay comfortable in the sleeper, and he did not like generators. He solved both problems by rigging his van to use solar power.

While the Espar heating and cooling components are yet to be installed, Bill knows their power requirements and believes that once they are installed, he will never again have to idle to stay comfortable in his sleeper.

solar-van-01.jpg


The story is embargoed until the magazine is in print. It will appear online at Expedite NOW after the magazine is out.
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
Thanks Phil.

Peoples Are easy to forget that this is a 5$/Gal. Time with the only exception being the oncoming elections that drive price down.

now is the time to save , invests in fuel saving devices , and change habits to get used to save money on fuel .
6 months from now , IF fuel prices will go up , this kind of vans will be the only ones out there ...

Now , 'bout that chicken & Egg...
sorry for breaking the story first...
as you know , Moose's are not hatch out of an egg...



Moose,
Dallas.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
There is nothing to be sorry about, moose. Without your post I would not have known about the van. And because of your post, 48,000 Expedite NOW readers will learn of it.
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
There is nothing to be sorry about, moose. Without your post I would not have known about the van. And because of your post, 48,000 Expedite NOW readers will learn of it.
1st Time is always free.
Am expecting to get payed the next time around...:)



Moose.
Volvo,V.A
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
"As professional as they seem to be it makes me wonder how the safety department isn't all over that issue; considering many of those Sprinters have a custom built sleeper package."

I don't know where the misconception came from that all Sprinters with a custom sleeper package cannot haul more than 2000 pounds of freight. Most can. For the 06 and earlier long and tall Sprinter, with the GVW being 8550 lbs and the curb weight being 4600 lbs, that leaves 3950 for outfitting and cargo. Incidentally, the Sprinter's curb weight as listed by Mercedes includes all operating consumables like gas, coolant, oil, and also includes 75 kilograms (165 lbs) for a driver. If you want to haul 2500 pounds, assuming 300 pounds for securements and personal items, that leaves 1150 pounds from which to construct a customized sleeper.

The Midwest Upfitters "Expediter" package, which is the most common manufacturer custom upfit for expediting, yields an "empty weight ticket" on an 06 and earlier long and tall of about 6250, which leaves 2300 for cargo. Other popular manufacturer upfits are in the same ballpark, give or take a couple hundred pounds.

Those two particular $90,000 vans obviously had something else going on besides a standard expediter upfit, be it special appliances, extra heavy anti sway bars or springs, something. I know too many people with the manufacturer upfits and have seen too many empty weight tickets not to know that many of these Sprinters can haul 2000 pounds of cargo without any problems. Some can haul 2500, some even more. Yeah, some can't even haul 1700 pounds.

I can haul 2290 lbs in mine. I've got those shelves, and the bunk, that are made out of some pretty heavy bookcase-type wood, and there's the Microfridge, and the batteries, etc.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I weighed out last week...me and wife...didn't have the coolers onboard or her purse*LOL*...but it was 6040 and 3/4 tank of fuel...so call it 6200....leaving 2350 for cargo...when I was solo I could take an extra 100 lbs or so...;)
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
This is not my neck of the wood so to speak ...
yet am wondering ,why am i seeing sprinters with a double wheels on the rear axle ???
can they gross more ?


A wondering
Moose.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
This is not my neck of the wood so to speak ...
yet am wondering ,why am i seeing sprinters with a double wheels on the rear axle ???
can they gross more ?


A wondering
Moose.

Yes....9990 GVW so they could be used for sleeper converts...
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Do the wheel wells get in the way loading pallets? Jerry lee
Yes, they do. The wheel wells aren't wide enough to allow for a 48" skid, so they must be modified to allow for that wide of a skid. A few have raised the floor to be above the top of the wheel wells, but IMHO that's silly since you lose the advantage of the extra height a Sprinter provides, not to mention that by raising the floor you raise the center of gravity making the vehicle far less stable. A dually Sprinter with a raised floor and a tall-ish load rolled over on an exit ramp in Indianapolis just last week. I'm aware of at least two other cases similar, so it's not hard to assume that it's happened more than that.
 
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