a question for ron paul detractors

AMonger

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Which is why such a disclaimer from one of the people who regularly do point out bad punctuation is all the more ironic, and funny. I think whatever he's using seems to work rather well. Doesn't change the fact that he's blaming the tool for his posts, tho. :D

Excuse me, but it's "though," not "tho." :D

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Turtle

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Excuse me, but it's "though," not "tho." :D
Oh, I know. Peeps who type "tho" instead of "though" prolly do it as a result of informal laziness. :D

Same reason "through" gets spelled as "thru". Pure laziness.
 

RLENT

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And those who used to be defective reasoning of, "he can't win, so I won't vote for him" bear some responsibility for the lousy presidents we've had since then.
Indeed they do - however expect that for some, their inability to understand how extensive personal responsibility really is (or can actually be) will continue at least for a time ....

We have become a culture which rejects the very idea of personal responsibility .... even to the point that those who profess and clamor for it, and condemn others for failing to practice it, reject it for themselves in a variety of ways .....

If one wants to understand the magnitude of the terminal death throes that the Republican Party is actually in, all one has to do is Google the phrase "Republicans at debate boo the Golden Rule" and observe how, in the very buckle of the Bible Belt, the one man who stood on stage and suggested the idea that the Golden Rule should actually be followed and practiced in both private and public life, was soundly booed by some in the crowd.

That "some" undoubtedly includes at least some that would call themselves Christian ..... and, like many I have known, probably make quite a big deal of it publicly, giving it all manner of lip service ..... but cannot actually bring themselves to follow and practice the tenets of that faith in their lives ....

The above phenomena does two things:

1. It gives real ammunition to the political opposition, who will undoubtedly exploit it - as they should (.... that which furthers the cause of truth can be deemed good, no matter what quarter it comes from) .....

2. It drives away those who see the absolute hypocrisy of these charlatans .... and are unwilling to be associated with it, and so utterly reject it ....​

I spend a good deal of my time reading (but not commenting) at various "conservative" websites .....

If there is any one thing that is abundantly apparent, it is that in this election cycle, so-called conservatives are devouring themselves - it is pure cannibalism at it's finest .....

They cannot unite around commonly held principles, but instead largely focus and concentrate on division ..... it is actually something that has been going for a very considerable period of time (well prior to this election cycle)

I suspect that this phenomena is something that most of these folks are largely unable to even see (although there are a few here and there that seem to have discernment).... therefore, being blind, they have no chance to perceive the underlying cause.

When one embraces war as a lifestyle ..... rather than peace .... it has some unintended, and often quite unforeseen, but very real consequences.

It can probably be best summed in the following verses from the Pauline epistle Galatians in chapter 5, specifically in verses 14 and 15:

14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

IMO, such as above is truly wisdom for ages ....

..... of course, I can only hope that I might someday possess the discernment to understand how I might fully apply it to my own life ..... :rolleyes:
 
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AMonger

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Indeed they do - however expect that for some, their inability to understand how extensive personal responsibility really is (or can actually be) will continue at least for a time ....

We have become a culture which rejects the very idea of personal responsibility .... even to the point that those who profess and clamor for it, and condemn others for failing to practice it, reject it for themselves in a variety of ways .....

This can be seen in socialism and welfare programs here. The statist welfare solution removes responsibility for one's own family and neighbor and actually inculcates in society the belief that it's mean to expect one to rely on private charity, both individual and societal, and moral to steal from society as a whole, which is just made up of many individuals. You point out that it's theft to get the gummint to take from those individuals to support you but it would be moral to rely on family, church, or private charitable organizations, and the knives come out. Then they even twist things to paint the former as Christian responsibility and the latter as immoral greed, when it's precisely the opposite.

Previous generations would be stunned.

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RLENT

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This can be seen in socialism and welfare programs here. The statist welfare solution removes responsibility for one's own family and neighbor and actually inculcates in society the belief that it's mean to expect one to rely on private charity, both individual and societal, and moral to steal from society as a whole, which is just made up of many individuals. You point out that it's theft to get the gummint to take from those individuals to support you but it would be moral to rely on family, church, or private charitable organizations, and the knives come out. Then they even twist things to paint the former as Christian responsibility and the latter as immoral greed, when it's precisely the opposite. Previous generations would be stunned.
Indeed - all true ..... but it's even worse than that:

Because on the flip side (the so-called "conservative" - which is generally not really conservative, but neo-conservative) the very same thing is practiced - but in terms of welfare to foreign nation-states and groups ....

Of course, it is not only on that side .... ;)

Further, for some, it is pushed that is their (and ours' as a nation) "Christian responsibility" - or even moral duty - to support one nation-state in particular .... and that it is inherently anti-semitic and mean, immoral greediness to oppose doing so.

This is why there is no real, substantive difference between one of the two parties or the other - they both support the immoral use of force to steal from the citizenry to support things they oppose.

Personally, if I am faced with the choice of being compelled to support my fellow citizens (who perhaps have fallen on hard times) - or supporting other nations who may not have a history of actions towards my nation that could be characterized in any way as "friendly", there is little doubt in my mind where my duty lies, first and foremost.

If anyone wishes to support or defend other nations, they are entirely free a far as I'm concerned to do so ... open your wallet ... or pick up a gun and head on over ....

Just don't expect me to willingly submit - when you attempt to pick my wallet ..... or sacrifice my children to your insanity .....
 

witness23

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If one wants to understand the magnitude of the terminal death throes that the Republican Party is actually in, all one has to do is Google the phrase "Republicans at debate boo the Golden Rule" and observe how, in the very buckle of the Bible Belt, the one man who stood on stage and suggested the idea that the Golden Rule should actually be followed and practiced in both private and public life, was soundly booed by some in the crowd.

I watched the debate and when Mr. Paul was booed, my jaw literally dropped and all I could do is sit there in astonishment shaking my head in disbelief. I don't get it, I really don't get it. I don't know the demographics of the audience that night but being in South Carolina one can assume it was made up of many who call themselves Christians. If so, they are either lying or do not know the Gospel.
 
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