a question for ron paul detractors

AMonger

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when was the last time any serious presidential candidate proposed getting the government off your back? I mean, really shrinking it and paring it down to size?

ronald reagan talked a good game about shrinking government, but either didn't mean it, or wasn't very good at it. the government grew substantially during his administration. there certainly hasn't been 1 since him, and there hasn't been 1 before him in my lifetime.

taking this into consideration, when do you think we might see another candidate wanting to really shrink the government, assuming the nation survives the trouble ahead of us, which is anything but guaranteed?

so aside from ron paul, or the government collapsing under its own weight, don't you see that this is our only chance? this is our only chance. this is our only chance. did I mention that this is our only chance?

If you have any interest in small, unobtrusive, constitutional government, do you foresee any possibility that you can pass Ron Paul by and EVER see another chance to put Leviathan back on his leash? If Dr. Paul accomplishes only 1/3 of what he proposes in that area, we'll be freer than we've been in any of our lifetimes.

Don't pass this by. This is the last opportunity you have to be free. Once the last shovel of earth is on top of freedom's casket (and it's probably half-buried now), the Earth will likely never know freedom again. Once freedom is gone here, it's gone for good. Put aside the unimportant crap that's keeping you from voting for Dr. Paul--and all issues besides freedom and the Bill of Rights are crap right now--and embrace your last chance to be free. You won't get another.



2012: Ron Paul or not at all.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
 

LDB

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A foolish decision resulting in the greater of two evils is still foolish.
 

moose

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R.P presidential campaign can be somed-up in a one short sentence :

" Osama's are better then Obama's "
:D
 
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tbubster

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Maybe just maybe some of us do not belive that Paul is our last chance.Seems this talk of one person being the only person to beable to save this country is what got us 4 years of Obama.Thanks but no thanks.The thing some of you do not seem to get about paul is he can not do many of the things he says he will do with out the help of congress.

Now how many people really belive that congress would be in any hurry to help paul in any way shape or form???????
 

layoutshooter

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Maybe just maybe some of us do not belive that Paul is our last chance.Seems this talk of one person being the only person to beable to save this country is what got us 4 years of Obama.Thanks but no thanks.The thing some of you do not seem to get about paul is he can not do many of the things he says he will do with out the help of congress.

Now how many people really belive that congress would be in any hurry to help paul in any way shape or form???????

Ron Paul will likely be stuck with most of the congress as we know it today. There cannot be real change without a congress of Ron Paul's. There will be gridlock. That might help, the less they can do the better. Only problem is that will cause him to be a one term president as the people will blame him.
 

davekc

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I don't see Ron Paul ever getting close enough to winning that it would have a impact.
 

AMonger

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Okay, thanks for the replies. When historians ask, as we do with nazi germany, how we could have let it happen, they'll be able to come here in read this and find out.

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davekc

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Okay, thanks for the replies. When historians ask, as we do with nazi germany, how we could have let it happen, they'll be able to come here in read this and find out.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

The power of EO:D
 

layoutshooter

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It would more interesting to hear how some feel Ron Paul will be able to do any of the things he would like to with a hostile congress and stay true to the Constitution. BE SPECIFIC PLEASE. Generalities don't cut it.

That is just one of the problems with all of the candidates running for president. They speak volumes of words but say little.
 
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Turtle

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I don't see Ron Paul ever getting close enough to winning that it would have a impact.
Ron Paul has already had an impact. We have current candidates, and current presidents, echoing many of the same things Paul has been talking about for years.
 

Turtle

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irregularities in punctuation and spelling are the result of voice transcription software.
It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools. The table saw isn't to blame when the wood is cut incorrectly. Hammers aren't to blame when the nail is hammered into the wrong spot. Cruise Control isn't to blame when the vehicle rear-ends the one in front of it. Irregularities in punctuation and spelling are the result of the poster failing to correct any voice transcription (or autocorrect or his or her own fingers) caused punctuation and spelling mistakes prior to submitting the post. ;)
 

layoutshooter

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Ron Paul has already had an impact. We have current candidates, and current presidents, echoing many of the same things Paul has been talking about for years.

Yep, for now. They will revert if Paul goes away. They always do.

That is why I don't think Paul would be effective. The congress will NOT be changing all that much.
 

RLENT

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R.P presidential campaign can be somed-up in a one short sentence :

"Osama's are better then Obama's "
Not really accurate - but any of others could be accurately summed up in this sentence:

.... subservience to Israel and her interests is much better than actually following the Constitution, and actually looking out for the United States ....

If ya wanna get some idea of who's pulling Robamney's strings just Google this name - and really dig into her background :D:

Orit Gadiesh
 

davekc

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Ron Paul has already had an impact. We have current candidates, and current presidents, echoing many of the same things Paul has been talking about for years.

Yes, an impact on what they are talking about, but not really on the outcome. Unless of course he goes independent. Then in that case, its more hope and change.
 

RLENT

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If R.P. is elected, with his brand of foreign policy we will all be praying to Mecca 5 times a day.
Not true - although if he were elected, people that did feel like praying to Mecca 5 times a day would certainly have their right to do so protected, since Dr. Paul actually believes in following the Constitution .....

On the other hand, if any of the others are elected, the call will continue to be to send our sons and daughters to die and be maimed in far off foreign lands, in order to kill the brown unbeliever people ... all in the name Jebus (who is not Jesus BTW)

.... but then, I understand some are just totally fine with that .....
 
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davekc

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Not true - although if he were elected, people that did feel like praying to Mecca 5 times a day would certainly have their right to do so protected, since Dr. Paul actually believes in following the Constitution .....

On the other hand, if any of the others are elected, the call will continue to be to send our sons and daughters to die and be maimed in far off foreign lands, in order to kill the brown unbeliever people ... all in the name Jebus (who is not Jesus BTW)

.... but then, I understand some are just totally fine with that .....

Think some found that out yesterday after that SC debate.
 

RLENT

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A foolish decision resulting in the greater of two evils is still foolish.
Unfortunately your logic is correct ..... and when you and others applied it in the last election cycle y'all gave us Obama ....

Do you really want to repeat that and experience 4 more years .... ? :confused:
 

layoutshooter

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Unfortunately your logic is correct ..... and when you and others applied it in the last election cycle y'all gave us Obama ....

Do you really want to repeat that and experience 4 more years .... ? :confused:


"WE'all" had little to do with Paul not winning the the primary the last several times he ran. If 100% of all EO members voted for him at ANY point he still would have lost.
 
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