A "Gangster" Government.....

Turtle

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The story of how strength and courage in the face of adversity and danger is related to two nuts encased in a sack of shriveled skin hanging from between a man’s legs is probably a fascinating story, indeed.

As to Obama, one day, hopefully soon, many will finally see their Messiah as what he really is - nothing more than a run-o-the-mill Chicago politician.

Excellent video, BTW. :)
 

tallcal101

Veteran Expediter
Very weak.The letters went out before the government got involved.The board made the call on the dealer dismisals( similar to Chrysler) as a last gasp attempt to save the game.The government will not be running these sorry *** business's,but perhaps they should as Detroit has so missed the boat.

The dealers who were cut were the least profitable ones.What the hell do you think business is about,paticularly an industry that is failing and flailing like this one? They all got fat on SUV's that were just what we did not need on the road. I have no sympathy for them, the signed their own death notices and got fat along the way.
 
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xiggi

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? They all got fat on SUV's that were just what we did not need on the road. I have no sympathy for them, the signed their own death notices and got fat along the way.


I have never understood what is wrong with someone driving the type of vehicle they prefer. If someone wants to drive a pickup, suv, compact or whatever it should be their choice.
 

greg334

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Yep we heard from the left coast, amazing that people who live in glass houses keep throwing rocks.
 

pelicn

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The dealers who were cut were the least profitable ones.What the hell do you think business is about,paticularly an industry that is failing and flailing like this one? They all got fat on SUV's that were just what we did not need on the road. I have no sympathy for them, the signed their own death notices and got fat along the way.

There has been story after story of dealerships that have gotten the axe, that were profitable and doing well, and no explanation as to why they were cut.
I still can't understand how this is happening!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Two Words - Fascist Corporatism.

Fascism is derived from Socialism and Socialism is part of the entire class warfare Marxist movement. Obama is a Marxist but he does not follow Stalinist doctrine, hence can accept Fascism as part of the game plan.

Corporatism is the control of the companies by the government. It was used in Italy under Mussolini and Germany under Hitler. There is no difference in what happened in Italy and more closely what happened in Germany than what is happening right here.

From Wikipeida.... (because the author of the post put it best)

1- Corporatism is a system of economic, political, and social organization where corporate groups or interest groups, such as business, ethnic, farmer, labour, military, or patronage groups, are joined together under a common governing jurisdiction to try to achieve societal harmony and promote coordinated development.

2 - Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at national level. This non-elected form of state officializing of every interest into the state was professed to better circumvent the marginalization of singular interests (as would allegedly happen by the unilateral end condition inherent in the democratic voting process). Corporatism would instead better recognize or 'incorporate' every divergent interest as it stands alone into the state organically, according to its supporters, thus being the inspiration behind their use of the term totalitarian, perceivable to them as not meaning a coercive system but described distinctly as without coercion in the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism as thus:
[The state] is not simply a mechanism which limits the sphere of the supposed liberties of the individual... Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State... Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers.

This prospect in Italian fascist corporatism claimed to be the direct heir of Georges Sorel's anarcho-syndicalism, wherein each interest was to form as its own entity with separate organizing parameters according to their own standards, only however within the corporative model of Italian fascism each was supposed to be incorporated through the auspices and organizing ability of a statist construct. This was by their reasoning the only possible way to achieve such a function, i.e. when resolved in the capability of an indissoluble state.
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We have in all intent and purpose a part of fascism here in the US. As much as many will think it is a right wing thing, people are ignorant to the fact that the left and right thing have different meanings in Europe and specifically our right is not their right. The really sad thing is that the people who will benefit from all of this are just the politicians and their freinds.



OH and the little dirty secret is people like Andy and doug complain about the last administration being freinds of big business, they are nothing like the democrats who are part of this Corporatist movement. Andy knows what I am talking about, it comes out in his posts but doug ......
 
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dieseldiva

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There has been story after story of dealerships that have gotten the axe, that were profitable and doing well, and no explanation as to why they were cut.
I still can't understand how this is happening!

When she speaks of the Senator arranging a meeting for this dealer (the first example), she doesn't say who specifically from GM this meeting was with. That's the person that needs to answer these questions.

A thought I had was about all these Czars he's appointing. They answer to no one but the President. Not even Congress. Is this new "car czar" the one making these deals?

Lots of food for thought in these deals but whatever it is, it can't be good.

Also, the dealership Michele talks about from MN that's been in business for, I think she said 90 years and quite profitable and yet being closed....I believe that to be the one that is owned by the parents of one of the anchors at Fox News...they were talking about it last week with this anchor.

It's all very interesting and yet sickening too.
 

aristotle

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Michele Bachmann is a rising star for the GOP. I could easily support a Palin/Bachmann ticket in 2012. Two conservative women on the same ticket would drive the Democrats nuts.

Come to think of it, I could support a Wilford Brimley/Leslie Nielson ticket if they were diametrically opposed to the cult of OBAMA.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Michele Bachmann is a rising star for the GOP. I could easily support a Palin/Bachmann ticket in 2012. Two conservative women on the same ticket would drive the Democrats nuts.

Come to think of it, I could support a Wilford Brimley/Leslie Nielson ticket if they were diametrically opposed to the cult of OBAMA.

Unfortunately, Michelle Bachmann was left high and dry by the GOP during the elections, for being pushed into saying Obama was un-American. She held her own, and won, despite her chicken shiite party. Good for her!
 
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