8 days and no run

targuard86

Expert Expediter
I've got a B unit with FCC that has been sitting since April 16 checked into the Trenton Express center and has not been offered a load yet. He's sitting 3 miles from Trenton so he's not too far out. He has not refused any loads not has he went out of service.............WOW.

I know everyone will say he should have moved long ago but my point is.....again, WOW. Who would think you could not at least get a small run in/around Detroit.
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
FedEx Custom Critical has a low percentage of automotive related freight, even out of the Detroit area. I'm guessing that your van is sitting at the Detroiter Truck Stop. Eight days is far too long to be sitting there if that is the case. The real WOW may not be with the carrier but with the driver for not relocating from a dead zone. If you are the owner, a call to your contact would be in order to get the "rest of the story"

You said your driver was in the Trenton Express center. I hope that was a slip of the lip because the FedEx CC Trenton Express Center is in New Jersey and it would be rare to sit more than a day at that location.
 

simon says

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Eight days and he drives for you? Wow, what a joke. You both are losing money, and one has no life at all.
 

targuard86

Expert Expediter
Your right Terry, He was showing as in trenton, MI not the Trenton Express center. My partner is supose to handle our FCC trucks so I have not talked to the driver or the FCC. I do know that according to the extranet the vehicle has not went out of service, the driver is and has been current with FCC and it isn't showing any refusals or missed loads. I aggree, I'd have left long ago but if you leave you go to the bottom of the list wherever you decide to go. (pick an express center where no-one is)

2 weeks ago he ran as hard as he could so I'm not bashing FCC, just found it strange that it would happen.

Oh, and he is now waiting in Toledo for a relay load out of the North East going to Chicago. We've always done well around Chicago!
 

MSinger

Expert Expediter
You might check uship. There was someone on there needing a poodle transported from Detroit to Seattle for $75.00.








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jrcarroll

Expert Expediter
For $75.00 I'll put pooche in a small box and sent it air freight.

Terry, a quick question for you. If a freight center was good last season how is a driver to know about how center is doing at current time? FedEx will not give out freight movement for last 10-30 days, so the driver has to use his or her own judgement based on past history.
Yes, the idea of moving from a center to relocate to another one that has no trucks maybe a good idea, however you will drop to last in line by moving. been there, done that.

PS for a good time stop by and check out the number of trucks (fedex) at Alumi-Junk@ detroit..Has grown in hugh numbers over the last week.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
>Yes, the idea of moving from a center to relocate to another
>one that has no trucks maybe a good idea, however you will
>drop to last in line by moving. been there, done that.

I don't understand. If there are no trucks isn't last in line also first in line?

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terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
FedEx Custom Critical provides owners and drivers with the number and types of trucks moved out of each Express Center for the current day. The information starts at midnight and is updated every 3 hours.

The carrier also provides the real time number of loads by truck type for the current day or any day prior, even 10 or 30 days past. The information is only an aid to help a driver make a best guess as to where he might like to layover. Our company can only help so much because they don't always know which customer is going to call for expedited freight on any given day.

We should all understand that when we lease to a carrier and rely on that carrier for all of our freight, we do so in the same manner as the contract ambulance operator; we never know when or where the next job will originate. There is rarely anything dedicated about expedite freight.

For kangar0085. FedEx Custom Critical does not necessarily cater to the same customers as Panther or many other carriers. My "dead zone" comment was relative to our carrier and not Panther. One reason Detroit may be great for you is the abundance of NLM freight of which we haul very little.
 

jrcarroll

Expert Expediter
Lets say you are sitting in Cleveland and check a center in Columbus and find no trucks, so you move there.
Now when you get there and check in there are 4 other trucks, ooops now your #4 in line.BUT when you left Cleveland you were #3 in line there and had sit for 3-4 days... If we were given the crystal ball to carry, you just might be able to see the true status of a center, because when you call in, the powers that be will not tell you any more information than they "think" you need to know.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
So when you call in and inquire about a specific location sometimes they only tell you what's there, not what's en route. Or they lie. Or a combination of both.

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davekc

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Staff member
Fleet Owner
Panther gives you the average for 21 days. You have to call to get up to the minute inbound trucks. They only show inbounds with loads, not ones that may be migrating there empty. If you pick up one day and deliver the next, call at the respective times and you will know what went out the previous day.
As for eight days in Detroit, it would seem there would be plenty of loads. There are literally pages of frieght for that given time period. Bear in mind that not all are great high paying loads, but there are loads there.
There was a post sometime back about their qc not showing you where you should be. Are you sure they know you were there? Don't want to overlook the obvious.











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joebob1_30132

Expert Expediter
P11 always was good about giving averages for twenty one days and usually had helpfull info in that reguard ..Thing I learned to ask was how many inroute... and what was in route,i learned in Nashville that even though I would have been 6th out,I would have been 2nd team. that changes my decision.
We were in La with anoth conway team ..The team ahead of us were there for three days and con way would have paid there d/h to elpaso where they would be 4th . He was number one I was two. I asked him why leave number 1 in La to be num 5 in elpaso. Conway offered me the same thing ..but if he was leaving his number one spot to me in La...hey ... I asked If he realy wanted tho do that. i knew cnway was agressive in La and it would bust loose back east with a good run...to make up for a bad few days.. Conway did not depend on Auto parts and peices..
So the moral of this is
 

kangar0085

Seasoned Expediter
Yeah Panther dispatch will give all the recent averages if you call past 9pm but I believe they should always give it out no matter when you call Dave.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I have never heard of waiting to 9PM? Your macro 8 will give you the numbers via the QC as well.










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jrcarroll

Expert Expediter
If a driver calls in and uses the VRU, it will only tell him what current numbers of trucks are at location. Our Quallcom doesn't have all the bells and whistles like the 'black cat'.
The Fed only gives out info on a need to know basis, and what we need, if other than basic info, they do not supply that info.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
in the 20 plus years ive been doing expedite,I have't found a steady busy area,what is really busy one week will be slow the next.if there is a steady busy express center,too many trucks end up there ,so now its slow
 

MoonProwler

Seasoned Expediter
Hey Terry!!

Why is it that from 5PM on fridays till 8AM on mondays drivers that are not picking up, under load, delivering are being told not to call in? And why is it that all info on VRU and C-link are not updated from 3PM fridays till 9AM on mondays?

If a driver is promised a load by his contractor coordinator/dispatcher then whats wrong in sitting and waiting for that load? That is unless he was lied to!

And all of us out here know Fedex C C will set you up with runs to get you away from home, then leave you setting where they last suggested you move to, not paying you deadhead to move over once a week!

Fedex C C raised their rates last fall, but fleet owners, onwer operators, signed on independent contractors started seeing less money, why is that?

Whats up with dispatches little contest to see who can pay least amount out to drivers over specsified time. Prize being trip to Islands?

Terry we are not dumb_ _ _ steering wheel holders out here. Nobody is hideing anything from anyone anymore. Were are all speaking very openly about our companies, company problems, industry problems.


Oh yeah and how is it a driver can check into 8 different service centers and stay 12 to 24 hours each and not get so much as a small intown load? All these centers had airfreight and groundfreight, were good for fedex cc freight before, good tranfers points as well.
 

MoonProwler

Seasoned Expediter
TARGUARD

Seems to me your driver has all good intentions, but that its really Fedex C C who has come up short and dropped the ball. Detroit area is americas manufacturing capitol. To say theres no freight coming out of there is totally rediculous. I've spoke with expedite drivers as well as other drivers. Its only cargo van drivers, some c-unit drivers who are being starved out. Your e-units, d-units are getting loads right and left. Fedex C C seems to have given alot of its B and C unit freight loads to D and E units, as well as haveing given it to airfrieght, freight, ground and home delivery.

You probobly didnt know, nor your driver, but Fedex C C has turned Detroit into transfer point for Canadian loads. And they didnt get one load offer? Thats Fedex C C Targuard, not your driver.
Never turns a load down and is always availible to? Thats company Bull_ _ _ _. I say keep the driver and _ _ _ _can Fedex C C
Seems independents are coming back and doing well, you might want to go it on your own.
 
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