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Dreamer

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Truck Safety Groups Seek 8-Hour Driver Rule

Journal of Commerce Online

Jun 29, 2010 9:13PM GMT


William B. Cassidy

Public Citizen and allies urge stronger limits on trucker hours of service
Truck safety groups are calling for a dramatic reduction in the time truck drivers are allowed to be behind the wheel, saying federal regulators should limit driving time to eight hours and a day and 40 hours a week.

The cutback from 11 hours a day would likely have a profound impact on the trucking industry and on shipping distribution networks now built around trucking networks that can stretch for hundreds of miles.

The Truck Safety Coalition, Public Citizen and Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety detailed their vision of new driver hours of service rules in a comment filed June 17 with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, which decided last year to re-open driver rules that have been contested and changed over the last 15 years.

The groups also said truck drivers should have a maximum 12-hour work day that includes loading and waiting.

The daily driving time available to truckers would be cut by 27 percent. That would likely shorten daily lengths of haul for many truckers by 100 to 150 miles, driving up company costs as they try to server longer supply chains and leaving more business likely to shift to railroads.

The comment is available at www.regulations.gov, a federal Web site.

The FMCSA is closing in on an August deadline for issuing a proposed hours rule for truckers. A final rule is due in 2011, under a settlement reached last October.

The settlement put a lawsuit by the Teamsters union and Public Citizen challenging Bush administration driver work rules on hold until FMCSA could craft new rules.

Since 2003, truckers have been allowed to drive 11 consecutive hours a day and work up to 14 hours, followed by a 10-hour off-duty period.

Trucking groups, including the American Trucking Associations and the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, support the 11-hour limit.

Prior to 2003, truckers were allowed to drive for 10 hours a day and to work an additional five hours. That 15-hour day could be extended by breaks.

Public Citizen has long advocated shorter driving times, with former President Joan Claybrook calling for an eight-hour driving limit for truckers in 2005.

"I'd have truckers drive eight hours, not 10 or 11," Claybrook said. "I'd have them on a circadian rhythm, with a 24-hour cycle, and knock out the 34-hour restart."

That's the essence of the proposed rule outlined in the one-sheet comment, filed by Washington attorney Henry Jasny on behalf of the organizations.

Public Citizen and allies urge stronger limits on trucker hours of service
A driver¹s total driving time per seven-day week would be limited to 40 hours, with an additional 20 hours for non-driving on-duty time.

Drivers now are limited to 60 hours of total on-duty time -- both driving and non-driving -- in a seven-day period or 70 hours in an eight-day period.

In addition to cutting the daily driving time by three hours and total work day by two hours, the groups would increase daily off-duty time to 12 hours a day.

That would ensure a minimum of seven to eight hours sleep each night, and "allow time for drivers to perform other daily non-work tasks," the groups said.

The groups also seek a minimum 48-hour layover at the end of each week, rather than allowing truckers to start a new weekly cycle after spending 34 hours off duty.

--Contact William B. Cassidy at [email protected].
 

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
They totally ignore the fact that most accidents happen in the first couple hours of driving time.
 

14Wheeler

Seasoned Expediter
xiggi said:
They totally ignore the factS

You bet they do.

Like some jelly-rolled pencil pusher's gonna have a clue about what happens out here. They don't. They never will.
 

Jefferson3000

Expert Expediter
They also ingnore the result of this nonsense, which is even less capacity, higher prices on retail, and then eventually MORE big trucks running down the road than now. Ralph Nader, while being an intelligent man, seems to lack many basic reasoning skills.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Why don't these "experts" get out here and see the real world and how things work?

It is great job creation idea tho....even if their wines and cheese cost double then what it is now...
 

guido4475

Not a Member
Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt it strange how most of these people that create the laws for trucks and tell us what we can and cannot do never even been in truck?
 

Jefferson3000

Expert Expediter
I'm sure these expert CEOs wouldn't like it if the govt. passed a law stating that they couldn't work their salaried employees more than 40 hours a week.
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
They totally ignore the fact that most accidents happen in the first couple hours of driving time.

i was saying that for years , if we allowed to drive a 20 hours shifts ,it will improve safety ,because we will have less 'first couple hours of driving' :p

also ,
This problem can be easily solved by legislation .
just force new trucks to come with another set of controllers , (like steering ,pedals ,Ext. ), and mandate team in each truck .
when the 'new' driver come out of the bunk ,he log in ,and spend an hour behind the other wheel ... :rolleyes:

obviously ,this have nothing to do with safety ,and alot to do with Money . we do not have more fatigue drivers during the 11th hours then the first 8 , or at least that what study's showed us. just look on which groups are standing behind this , they cannot exists ,if they do not "improve truck safety" . good news is that they went overboard with this one ,so they luckily to be ignored ,just like they did the last time around .

what bungle me is why the oldmighty ATA is not behind this .
afterall this will improved the large trucking carriers bottom line ...
O'h wait ,it's because the ATA is actually representing the Shippers , not the Carriers ...
 

kcscooter

Seasoned Expediter
Please take these wack jobs seriously ! They are very patient and will keep trying to get this BS passed into law . To you who are out there every day and see how the real world works this is folly, but to those that have no knowledge except what they read in books or are told to be true haven't a clue ......
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
Laws that will never happen have already happened.Do you have a radar detector in your truck,legally?do you have the option of a split bunk,now?can you take time off,and not count it on your hours of service?
It is noted that the majority of truck drivers don't vote,so when you talk to your senators and congresmen,they listen with a deaf ear.40 hour week,yes it might happen
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
...do you have the option of a split bunk,now?

What is that ?

can you take time off,and not count it on your hours of service?

why not ?

It is noted that the majority of truck drivers don't vote,so when you talk to your senators and congresmen,they listen with a deaf ear.

when i call in,i always give my zip code first ,and mention that i do vote ,before making my point .
 
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